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    Default Thicknesser not planing at 90 to the true planed edge

    Hi guys, had a dig around for some advice on this one, but can't find any. Let me quickly describe what I'm doing, hopefully I'm just doing something stupid that can be rectified easily. My jointer and thicknesser are both helical head and brand new from Carba-Tec.

    1. Jointed the face...tested it with a straight edge. Nice and flat when placing on the jointer table...with that suction effect you get from a nice, flat board when you lift is slowly off the table.

    2. Jointed one edge using the planed face against the fence.

    3. Tested for square. Dead on.

    4. Place stock jointed face down on the thicknesser (CT-330X) and ran thru a couple shallow passes and checked for square. This is where I'm having trouble. Checking for square against the jointed edge shows I'm out by enough to be a problem.

    I would have thought that if I put the face jointed side down and run it thru the thicknesser, it should come out exactly the same so both faces are 90 to the jointed edge?

    So, the question is: am I possibly feeding the stock incorrectly (the in and out tables seem to be setup correctly, and I'm not getting any snipe or problems with the cut), or is the bed out of square with the cutterhead? I tried to check it best I could and it seems ok, but I couldn't really be sure it's not slightly out. I can't find any way to adjust this anyway, unless someone else knows how? Or is it possibly something else?

    Any help would be awesome, thanks again, as always.

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    A quick test to see if the thicknesser has side to side variance is to get two boards of equal thickness or close to. set your thicknesser to remove a small amount of material (0.5mm'ish). Run one board through on the left side, and one board through on the right side. Accurately measure the thickness of each board. Should be the same thickness. If its not the same then that will probably be the culprit. Might need to jack up one side of the table. There is probably an adjustment somewhere, I don't have that machine so I don't know if there is.

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    Nice one, Kuffy. Thanks.

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    What Kuffy said -- I would've suggested taking a wide board with one clean face facing down, putting it through the planer and then measuring both edges with calipers.
    I expect that's what your problem will be.

    Also: make sure that all bolts are tight. Are the inserts on the spiral head seated properly? No loose screws?
    I've had my Carbatec machines arrive with loose bolts, and the two tables on the jointer weren't co-planar either for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.W.H. View Post
    What Kuffy said -- I would've suggested taking a wide board with one clean face facing down, putting it through the planer and then measuring both edges with calipers
    I have previously purchased 180 x 18 or 240 x 18 pine boards from Bunnings for this purpose - found them to be dressed accurately, but you have to make sure it is not bowed in any way across the width, so take a steel ruler with you
    regards,

    Dengy

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    Thanks, guys...Further research reveals this is the same machine as the Ridgid TP-1300 which has a slightly better manual, but still no mention of how to adjust the elevation screws which is what could be the issue. At least I know what to look at now. Gonna go check it all now again. I'm pretty sure it is out, the challenge now is how to get it square. Have emailed Carba-Tec. Might pop in there Saturday morning. Unless someone has this actual machine, there's not a lot I guess we can do.

    These tests will be awesome when I actually work out how to adjust, though. So thanks so much for the answers so far.

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    you have this copy of the Rigid manual http://www.ridgidparts.com/pdf/TP13002.pdf

    are the infeed / outfeed tables properly adjusted? (page 16)

    also, this thread may help Rigid Thickness Planer not even - Need advice - Woodworking Talk - Woodworkers Forum
    regards from Alberta, Canada

    ian

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    Thanks, Ian. Have found both those. Without taking the whole thing apart, I can't see how to adjust the elevation screws, so I might have to wait until Carba-Tec call me back. The infeed and outfeed to my eye and framing square seem to be adjusted properly. To double check even further, I clamped the stock into the head and re-aligned the tables to just be kissing the stock so I know they're level. The joys of being a novice wookworker, eh....

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    when talking to Carbatec ask to talk to the service/repair guys you wont get any sense out of any of the others in my experience.

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    Hi DiRob, yes, I've had similar experiences with them already. They just sent me a breakdown of how to do this. If anybody has this machine and ever needs to do this procedure (which looks really fiddly, so hooray), I'll post the PDF here for future generations to find...20141203 (1).pdf

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    Yep talking from experience I had to pull my thicknesser apart to replace anti kickback fingers before I could use it from new pain but not worth returning to Carbatec.

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    Once again, a BRAND NEW machine that has problems, inaccuracies, and is causing the person who paid good money in good faith pain snd suffering. This situation is totally ridiculous.

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    yay zombie thread...

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