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    Default Wanting to buy a drill press - front to back tilt on the table?

    So far I've been looking at Totaltools (Saber), tradetools (Renegade), Bunnings (Full Boar), and a few others. None of these have adjustability for front to back tilt on the drill table.

    The only one that I can find with this feature is the Delta 18-900L drill press but a) this is not sold in Australia and b) lots of complaints about build quality control on this. However on paper this DP seems to have very nice features (nice depth stop, nice table adjustment, centre insert, etc) and made me almost jump out and get one (except I can't buy it in Australia)

    I understand that to adjust for front/back tilt if it's not true 90º, some people put aluminium foil as shims... which I'm trying to avoid. Is this not much of a problem that most manufacturers simply don't bother making it adjustable?

    Any suggestions on a particular drill press model would be most welcomed. The main use would be for woodworking.

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    What are you doing that you need that feature? Or is it how you are doing things?*


    If it was me, I'd just build an extra table from MDF to go over the drill press table that I could fix different angled blocks to. Gives an angle without the fuss of readjusting the table.


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    I have to admit I have never though about that aspect of DPs.
    I just measured mine with a DAF and it is 90.0º (+/- 0.1º) relative to the quill.
    Mine is an 8 year year old HD MT3 generic model originally from Timbecon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanz View Post
    What are you doing that you need that feature? Or is it how you are doing things?*
    At this point, my main concern is for 90º front-to-back tilt alignment (calibration) without having to resort to using shims, not for making any fancy compound angles or anything. But it seems that most DP's out there have it "pretty much" 90º (like what BobL was saying above), so maybe I shouldn't worry about it?

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    I bought a secondhand DP that had seen heavy use about a year ago. The table needed shimming but it was no big deal to do. Having said that...that DP is for metal. I can't remember if I ever checked the wood-only DP for square. Bought it new, Chinese made, seems right, so it probably is.
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    If you want to drill holes at an angle buy a Waldon radial DP or an Asian copy of same.
    Ive never heard of problems with accuracy with any DP other than massive run out on the shaft with the Chinese stuff from Carba crap etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clear out View Post
    If you want to drill holes at an angle buy a Waldon radial DP or an Asian copy of same.
    Ive never heard of problems with accuracy with any DP other than massive run out on the shaft with the Chinese stuff from Carba crap etc.
    H.
    If there is one kind of DP that is likely to have the problem the OP refers to then it will be a radial arm DP.
    While the Waldon radial is not likely to have this problem the cheap copies may.
    At least that was what I saw when I looked at a couple of cheapies when I was choosing a DP
    The problem is the flex in the arm when any sort of pressure is applied - this may cause the quill to table angle to open up to be greater than 90º.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    If there is one kind of DP that is likely to have the problem the OP refers to then it will be a radial arm DP.
    While the Waldon radial is not likely to have this problem the cheap copies may.
    At least that was what I saw when I looked at a couple of cheapies when I was choosing a DP
    The problem is the flex in the arm when any sort of pressure is applied - this may cause the quill to table angle to open up to be greater than 90º.
    I had the same thoughts, or should say I did have those thoughts. My Men's Shed has a few drill presses, one of which is a Carba-Tec Radial Arm unit.

    https://www.carbatec.com.au/drilling...-single-carton

    I really was quite sceptical about the accuracy one could obtain and hold, time has seen me change my point of view, within reason. Firstly, radial arm drills by their nature, are not as strong as a heavy duty non radial arm unit. I also think a radial arm drill press is a bit of a compromise, but, and it's a good but, they are very handy to have around with regard to timber drilling, as opposed to metal drilling.

    The first time I used our radial arm drill in ernest, was for a job where we had to drill about 200 holes at a 10º angle on two strips of timber. Pre-drilling was pretty much a given, but it was going to make the job a bit harder as we had to be dead exact. An option was to try the radial arm drill press and drill after partial assembly, thereby getting measurements from a starting edge dead exact.

    We all wondered how close the accuracy of the holes would be to our test set-up, because one row of holes was about 280mm further towards the operator than the first row. Ten holes per row, four rows per unit, with five units being built. They were excellent, better than anyone thought they would be, although what would a motley group of retired old gits know anyway.

    Since then, that radial arm drill has been my preferred choice of drill for woodwork, steel is another matter, although it isn't that bad it isn't what I would call a good steel drilling press. The downsides of all the current Asian radial arm drill presses I have seen, are mainly the limitation of drilling speeds.

    We have one of these drill presses as well, for the price it is awesome. It resides in our metal workshop and is a coveted piece of equipment.

    https://www.carbatec.com.au/drilling...peed-3-cartons

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    What sort of features do you wsnt in a dp other than that stated.

    Ive just got an old shopsmith up and running with a similar view to your self wanting that adjustmnet.

    It has just over 90mm quill travel

    The saw table can swing around through various angles and be used as a drill table with a fence



    This maybdo what you want



    You can pick them up for around 200 give or take. A great upgrade would be a 3ph with vfd.

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    I can't see a need for front to back tilt?? Most drill presses I am familiar with the table basically rotates in 360 deg left to right which to my mind will serve the same purpose, will it not? In such you get to drill holes at an angle to the surface.
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    I have gone ahead and got the Full Boar pedestal drill press from Bunnings. The primary deciding factor was the lowest speed being 180rpm vs the Hafco 280rpm. I'm about to assemble it and see how it goes.

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    If you want to do a long coat hook board with angles holes front to back would be the order of the day

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    OK I've bought a drill press. Drilled the two holes that I needed. I'm now done with the drill press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodmp View Post
    OK I've bought a drill press. Drilled the two holes that I needed. I'm now done with the drill press.
    Do we get a pic of the drill press

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