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11th May 2008, 03:02 PM #1
About to buy some tools & would like some advice.
Hey guys well i've deceided to bite the bullet & invest in some woodworking equipment.
Heres a list of what i want to buy & some carba-tec equipment that i hope will do me fine. I'm plannning on making fine furniture not as a business but for pleasure/hobby. i do intend to sell most of the pieces i make. My budget is 5k roughly but thats a little stretchable.
I'm new to the hobby but i do go to the local community woodies shed where i get plenty of exellent woodworking advice.
I'm looking for some oppinions/suggestions on the best way to spend my $$. This is a 1 time chance for me so i want to get it reasonably right.
heres what i'm after.
Jointer
http://www.carbatec.com.au/store/ind...h=180_370_2370
thicknesser
http://www.carbatec.com.au/store/ind...h=180_410_2650
tablesaw
http://www.carbatec.com.au/store/ind...450_3030_19800
those 3 types are definate purchases (not the actual pieces of equip but the type of equip)
Bandsaw
http://www.carbatec.com.au/store/ind..._320_490_19205
Woodrat or router boss ( when the latter is released & if it stacks up)
The woodrat or router boss is a definate too but that will push out the bandsaw & the boss isn't avail until august in the US so perhaps i can drop the rat for the bandsaw & hope i can get a rat latter.
I'm completely open to 2nd hand equip also provided its in Tasmania. Infact if i can get 2nd hand equip in good condition & save some $$ i would be very happy indeed ( & so would the SWMBO, she wants to go to Cairns next yr. lol)
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11th May 2008, 03:14 PM #2
HI
These are in Melbourne but freight might be cheaper than buying new. You could always bring a trailer or ute over on the boat and put several machines on it that wpuld save on freight.
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=72343
I would buy a 10 inch planer/jointer and a 16" bandsaw.
Are you going to need a 15inch thicknesser or would a 10 inch planer/thicknesser do the job??
Check Ebay you can always go and look at the machine before you bid??
Check out Carbetec & Hare & forbes they may both freight to tasy if they dont have stores there.
Good luck with the purchasers, it is good to help someone else spend their money.
Cheesregards
David
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11th May 2008, 03:24 PM #3Member
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G'Day
You should include a dust extractor as well. I got a deal from Carbatec where I got the same thicknesser and an extractor as well as some piping for somewhere around $1,800 (cannot remember the exact price). I went for a smaller jointer due to price but think now that may have been false economy. See if they well through in some more piping for the jointer.
Make sure that they can meet the promised delivery times, I was initially informed it would take one week but this turned into 2 1/2 months.
Also you need to get in a sparkie for the 15amp socket, in my case this and two extra 10amp sockets added $500 to the all up costs.
Cheers
Rodney
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11th May 2008, 06:14 PM #4Skwair2rownd
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New gear
Beer fridge
Comfortable and suitably grotty old chair
Oscilating fan
Chewing gum dispenser
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11th May 2008, 09:31 PM #5
scratch the oscilating fan, add a pot belly stove with a hot kettle ready at a moments notice. lol.
We have a carba-tec here in launceston which is y i chose all the gear from them, they have them all on the floor. dust extract is a must but i'm not fussed about it too much as i'm gonna put the extractor outside so all i want is heaps of suction.
I'm not sure about going to Vic for all that gear, for 1 i'm not sure if i'd fit it all on 1 trailer plus i recon if i could get over & back for under $500 it would be a bloody miricle. I've PM'd him anyways & i'll check with the ferry just how much travel will cost.
I'd rather a sepreate jointer & thicknesser as space isn't a problem for me.
Carba-tec have a 17" bandsaw http://www.carbatec.com.au/store/ind...80_320_580_590
I've got to run some lighting thru the shed anyways so a 15amp socket will not me much more.
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12th May 2008, 11:01 AM #6
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12th May 2008, 12:34 PM #7Skwair2rownd
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Good thinking on the 15amps. I often wonder why when people build a shed they don't put in at least one 15amp circuit.
Glad you have plenty of space.
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12th May 2008, 12:56 PM #8
Its heartening to see nobody rushing in to bag carba-tecs equip.
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12th May 2008, 01:23 PM #9
Rattrap, like your chice of saw I have the same model and it is a beauty, you won't be sorry.
Just a thought on the thicknesser. I went through a selection process for one of these and originally chose the model you selected. However, when I actually fiddled with them "in the flesh" I found that I like the model down better, not because it was $300 cheaper, but it has the motor on top and the table stays in place.
Whilst this makes it a little bit harder to wind the head up and down, it makes it heaps simples to have an infedd and outfeed roller stand that you don't have to adjust with every change of thickness. This makes it a much better choice IMHO.
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12th May 2008, 07:59 PM #10
U know i never thought of that. we don't often use the roller stands as its kind of shed policy for 2 people to operate machines like all these. Not enforced or anything just always handy to have another pair of hands round.
I'd chosen this 1 for the reason that the motor was down the bottom but the idea of a static table sounds a good 1
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12th May 2008, 11:26 PM #11
I reckon the opposite, those overhead motors are a PITA to do blade changes. I dont use roller stands with mine(Timbecon TBW3801 its virtually the same as the CT one your looking at) the infeed and outfeed tables are strong enough to hold any piece I'll ever feed through it.
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13th May 2008, 08:31 AM #12
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13th May 2008, 08:52 AM #13
I have had the overhead thicknesser for the last 6yrs or so and can tell you that changing the blades is not a PITA as the motor pivots out of the way, in fact I would reckon it would be the same as doing it on one with the motor below.
Cheers
DJ
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13th May 2008, 09:15 AM #14
As my shed doesn't have that policy, or the luxury of being able to always have 2 people on hand (SWMBO has a life too you know!), I find that I have to use roller stands, particularly on the outfeed. Having the stand setup at the correct height greatly assists with eliminating snipe. In fact I can say I have never had snipe with my CTJ680 (well so far anyway).
As for changing blades, I haven't done that yet, but reading the manuals for both the o/head motor and the base mounted motor machines, I can't see that it is any more difficult.
The CTJ680 is a very good machine and I certainly value the stationary table.
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13th May 2008, 08:04 PM #15
I like the static deck, i think i'll prob go with the overhead machine. I'll defenately check out the blade access for myself first.
On the subject of dust extraction, can a 2hp 1200cfm dust exhaustor with 4" pipe be reduced to the hand tool size (sander etc) & still have sufficant suck? I plan to have my dust collection outside but i'd prefer to have just the 1 pipe.
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