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  1. #1
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    Need some advice guys about purchasing a jointer.
    The carbatec CTJ-190 model is only $499 and the next model up CTJ-196 is $669 with an enclosed stand and a rack and pinion type mounted fence.

    Both these jointers are 6 inch capacity with same length tables.
    On the other hand the next model up is the 6 inch CTJ-150 for $869 with a longer bed but with a parallelogram table adjustment mechanism.

    Has anyone used/own the least expensive $499 open stand model? Does the infeed table have any slack or inaccuracies when adjusted
    OR
    is the next model with the rack and pinion type mounted fence a better made machine
    OR
    is the parallelogram table adjustment machine even better?

    Carbatec have 3 different 6 inch models and I don't know which machine is a better buy as far as accuracy and consistency is concerned.
    In the past I've used jointer and jack planes on redgum and ironbark to get flat surfaces in preparation for thicknessing and I don't want to go down that path again; it is far too time consuming heavy work and forever sharpening blades.
    I'll be using the machine only about 2-3 times a week for about 3 hours max and much less in the longer term. Any help, advice greatly appreciated.

    Thank, Evan

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    Hi Evan

    I don't have one of the carbatec jointers, but recently bought a 6" HAFCO machine from Hare & Forbes. I'm really happy with it. It is designated PT-161 and has a closed stand and is a very neat, well put together unit.

    The unit required a small amount of assembly (fitting the fence and the stand) and I assumed it would take a bit of adjustment before use. However, I found that it was spot on without any adjustment at all. A straight edge along the infeed and outfield tables showed them to be spot on.

    Have a look at this unit before you part with your dollars. On special at the moment for $395.

    http://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Pro...stockCode=W622

    I have some carbatec machinery and I reckon the build quality of this unit is as good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Sims View Post
    Hi Evan

    I don't have one of the carbatec jointers, but recently bought a 6" HAFCO machine from Hare & Forbes. I'm really happy with it. It is designated PT-161 and has a closed stand and is a very neat, well put together unit.

    The unit required a small amount of assembly (fitting the fence and the stand) and I assumed it would take a bit of adjustment before use. However, I found that it was spot on without any adjustment at all. A straight edge along the infeed and outfield tables showed them to be spot on.

    Have a look at this unit before you part with your dollars. On special at the moment for $395.

    http://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Pro...stockCode=W622

    I have some carbatec machinery and I reckon the build quality of this unit is as good.


    Thanks Geoff for your reply.
    Is the fence of the rack and pinion type?

    Cheers, Evan

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    Gday Evan,

    I bought the CTJ-196 about a month ago along with a number of other things. I've found it does the job very nicely. I also looked at the Hare and Forbes jointer, in the end I paid a little more but feel that the tool is better quality and the service was incomparable, which is why I paid the extra.

    I spent about 6 weeks looking at machinery to set up a small cabinet making shop and in the end I was more than happy to pay a little extra to get the service, just something to think about.

    Hope this helps you.

    Ross.

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    Thanks fozz, I am contemplating the CTJ-196 model also. I will visit Hare & Forbes and checkout their machines later in the day.
    Does the CTJ-196 come fully assembled out of the box? The reason I ask is I don't have a trailer or tow bar fitted on my car and was wondering if it would fit in the boot and rear seat if the machine is packed in 2 seperate boxes.

    Thanks, Evan

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    Evan, it came in two boxes and may just fit how you want it to fit, i.e, one box in the boot, one box on the back seat.

    There is alittle assembly needed to be done, no big deal.

    If you have any problems, let me know.

    Ross.

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    I got the carbatec CTJ-196 a couple of weeks again and I havn't had any major problems.

    The only fault that I've been able to find is when I'm plaining the face of a piece of Pine the extractor chute gets clogged (even when hooked up to an extractor) and the shavings start coming out around the blade.

    So far it only seems to happen with pine, I've put some harder woods through (Jarrah) and I havn't had a problem.
    Rgds
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    Thanks for all your replies guys. I've just splurged out the visa and spoilt myself at carbatec and bought the CTJ-196 buzzer. I looked at the CTJ-190 but didn't like the fence setup; it didn't look solid enough as the rack and pinion type on the 196 model.
    I paid little extra but I think in the long run I'll be better off. Now all I have to do is get it out of the car and put it together. I'm going to have a good weekend . Man, I love new toys . Those huge Robland machines on carbatecs floor are very tempting, but for now I'll settle at the lower end.

    Fozz if I have any assembly problems I'll post. Thanks again guys.

    Evan

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