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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Q View Post
    I don’t know about Hikoki framers, but I know that they weight about a kilo more than a Paslode. I have a DeWalt that weighs the same as the Hikoki and it’s too heavy for me to use for more than a few minutes. Everyone that I have lent it to (and I don’t lend tools normally) finds it too heavy.
    The hikoki frame is defiantly heavier than the paslode, but it performs like a pneumatic nail gun. Paslode is fine when you are working with framing pine, but is useless with hardwood. This job I am on now, we used a Hitachi pneumatic nail gun to attach linea board with 50mm framing nails into hardwood because the Paslode could not do it. Near the end of the job I bought the hikoki nail gun, we have not used the paslode or the pneumatic gun since.

    FWIW, you wont talk me out of the Milwaukee drill for power though, but you need to program it with Bluetooth to make it useful which is a pin in the bum.

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    Might not be what you are looking for, but I bought one of these kits 7 years ago as a DHP480Z Sydney Tools

    The torque in the drill is excellent and the impact driver is utterly outrageous.

    I've absolutely flogged these two tools with some brutal work and they've just kept going.

    It is as the responses above state: these can break your wrist. Ill add again that the impact driver is capable of driving in preposterous bolts and screws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodPixel View Post
    Might not be what you are looking for, but I bought one of these kits 7 years ago as a DHP480Z Sydney Tools

    The torque in the drill is excellent and the impact driver is utterly outrageous.

    I've absolutely flogged these two tools with some brutal work and they've just kept going.

    It is as the responses above state: these can break your wrist. Ill add again that the impact driver is capable of driving in preposterous bolts and screws.
    This is the one I had. Failed under warrantee, then failed again 3 months out of the repair warrantee. I was at CL Tools one stage and it was full of Makita reps, so I pinned them down about the drill. Ended up getting it fixed again on good will. I probably have a good $20k of Makita gear in my trailer, so it was a wise move on there behalf.

    I think that model has now been replaced with one that is on par with the red drill I bought.

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    One of the guys I work with used to do erect steel house frames which involves driving in thousands of tek screws. They did a frame every two days so were very hard on their tools.

    They found the Makita drivers the best, they would still need to replace their drivers every 2-3 months as they were stuffed, the Milwaukee units didn’t get through a day before burning out so returned to Makita.
    Maybe that was a bit of bad luck or that particular model was not one of their better ones who knows.
    From my observations I see just as many tradies with Milwaukee as Makita so I think it is a bit of a Holden-Ford type thing so run with the brand that feels right in your hands.

    The one thing where I think Makita has an advantage is that they are sold at most hardware chains so much easier to access the products and accessories.

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    It depends what you are doing but I occasionally I find for what I do that too much power can be a handicap.

    Recently I made this 3D printer enclosure.
    The frame is 20 mm x 1.6mm square Al tube and its clad in 1mm thick polycarbonate attached to the frame by over 150 mm M3 screws.
    The custom size Qubelock like plastic corners and hinges for the small front access panel were printed by the printer
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    To drill/tap/drive the screws I pulled out 3 of my Makita cordless drills.
    Drilling and tapping the Al and plastic with these drills - no problem.
    However, driving, even using the lightest torque setting would strip the very short (1.6mm) M3 threads.
    Luckily I still have my 10.8V Bosch driver (which unfortunately is getting to the end of its days) and torque setting 2 what just right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riverbuilder View Post
    The guys that work for me have either makita or milwaukee, we’ve tried all the brands and these seem to come out on top. A bloke came to site who had the new Hikoki and he said it was rubbish. I personally have a set of Protool cordless drills which I bought in 2004 and they still pull the pants off everything else, replaced one battery in all that time and that was because it fell in the river. The modern equivalent of mine are the big Festool ones. For home hobby use, I would look at AEG or Ryobi, theyre fine.
    Also have a set of Protool cordless drills had them for yrs (similar riverbuider) my go to ones ,prefer them to the DeWalt or the Festool drills I have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riverbuilder View Post
    The guys that work for me have either makita or milwaukee, we’ve tried all the brands and these seem to come out on top. A bloke came to site who had the new Hikoki and he said it was rubbish. I personally have a set of Protool cordless drills which I bought in 2004 and they still pull the pants off everything else, replaced one battery in all that time and that was because it fell in the river. The modern equivalent of mine are the big Festool ones. For home hobby use, I would look at AEG or Ryobi, theyre fine.

    I have this AEG cordless drill and I'm very happy with it------> AEG 18V 4.0Ah Brushless Hammer Drill Kit - Bunnings Australia

    I've had it for about three years and can't fault it. I'm not a tradie but I live on a rural property and it gets heavy domestic use.

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