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14th October 2016, 11:25 AM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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Geared drill press vs belt driven press
I have been wanting to upgrade my drill press for sometime, the travel on my press is only 80-82mm, this is too short and I need something in the vicinity of 100-120mm.
I know belt driven drill press needs to have the belt replaced from time to time
what about geared head drill press? anything I need to be cautious of when purchasing a gear head drill?
at the moment I am looking at this:
Pedestal type, Scott Machinery - Engineering Machinery Specialist - Conventional Machinery - Drills - Geared Head - OPTIMUM DH28GS Geared Head Drilling Machine
Any good/bad?SCM L'Invincibile si X, SCM L'Invincibile S7, SCM TI 145EP, SCM Sandya Win 630, Masterwood OMB1V, Meber 600, Delta RJ42, Nederman S750, Chicago Pneumatics CPRS10500, Ceccato CDX12
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14th October 2016, 11:37 AM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Ring Teknatool in NZ and ask them if this is available in 240V yet
NOVA Voyager Drill Press
I would be very interested in their response as would a lot of other people here.CHRIS
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14th October 2016, 03:47 PM #3Taking a break
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The only thing I'd be concerned about is the cost of repairs down the track; gears are a lot more expensive to replace than belts (which have a life span on the order of decades anyway)
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14th October 2016, 05:50 PM #4GOLD MEMBER
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I could not imagine the gears on mine being damaged doing woodwork, large drills in steel might do it but they would have to be very large as I have broken a 19mm bit drilling steel and trying short cuts. Gear head drills tend to be noisy in operation, far noisier than belt drive and most probably don't have the speed range that belt drives do. My drill is very old and only four speed but I will suffer that as a speed change only takes a second of moving a lever or a switch. That to me is the biggest advantage, the ease of speed changes.
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14th October 2016, 08:54 PM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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SCM L'Invincibile si X, SCM L'Invincibile S7, SCM TI 145EP, SCM Sandya Win 630, Masterwood OMB1V, Meber 600, Delta RJ42, Nederman S750, Chicago Pneumatics CPRS10500, Ceccato CDX12
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14th October 2016, 09:01 PM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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SCM L'Invincibile si X, SCM L'Invincibile S7, SCM TI 145EP, SCM Sandya Win 630, Masterwood OMB1V, Meber 600, Delta RJ42, Nederman S750, Chicago Pneumatics CPRS10500, Ceccato CDX12
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14th October 2016, 09:06 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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14th October 2016, 09:26 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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14th October 2016, 11:47 PM #9Senior Member
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I'm not a fan of geared head drills for woodwork. Others may like them, but if you haven't used one you need to try it first with a range of bits and see if you like the feel of it. If you're used to the change in vibration in a belt drive before a bit grabs and breaks and know when to back off, you may find the gear head lacking in feel. The high torque they give is both a blessing and a curse at times.
There are other options. Carbatec sell the variable speed Jet 2800VS here, maybe in NZ? 110mm quill travel, electronic variable speed (no pulley changes) and a table designed for woodworkers not machinists.
Up the price scale (more scald than scale!) is the variable speed Parken B8. Still belt drive, but fully variable DC motor, 140mm+ quill travel rpm from 10 to 10,000. Somewhere over 5k from memory. There was a post on the forums from someone who bought one, but I can't find it now. The day I can figure out how to charge ten dollars per hole, I'll buy one.
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15th October 2016, 12:13 AM #10
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Unless the DP has a clutch or torque limiter of some kind, the ability to be able to set a belt drive to slip in preference to large bits grabbing and breaking themselves or the work is quite useful. Less likely to occur in wood but if a large Forster in a geared head was to grab a piece of wood I could even imagine it tearing some pieces of wood apart.
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15th October 2016, 12:55 AM #12
From the drill's specs
Power supply range: 115 V – 240 V, 50 Hz – 60 Hz
This is the same info as on the supply plate of the Teknatool lathe that appears to have a similar (if not the same) motor
If Albert wants one, he may need to import it from the US.
From Nova woodworking's facebook page
NOVA Woodworking Aaaaargh, Stuart, in that case you have to bear with us just a little bit longer. The release for Australia is envisioned for early 2017.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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15th October 2016, 01:22 AM #13GOLD MEMBER
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Very droll, have you been sniffing creosote???
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15th October 2016, 08:24 PM #14SENIOR MEMBER
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I went to Carbatec today, They will have a Teknatool DVR drill press next January. dont know the price yet. but I watched the Teknatool lath Carbatec has in store, which has similar motor as the DVR Drill. it operation is just what I desired. quiet, smooth, and instantaneous change of speed.
Price should be about $3000 NZD including GST.
I have put my name down so when it arrives if price is too much out of expectation then I will have one.
Carbatec AKL has a 20 foot container fillled with DVR lath and drill press arriving in January - but I am guessing this maybe delayed. it has already been delayed, so, yeah.SCM L'Invincibile si X, SCM L'Invincibile S7, SCM TI 145EP, SCM Sandya Win 630, Masterwood OMB1V, Meber 600, Delta RJ42, Nederman S750, Chicago Pneumatics CPRS10500, Ceccato CDX12
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15th October 2016, 08:30 PM #15SENIOR MEMBER
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SCM L'Invincibile si X, SCM L'Invincibile S7, SCM TI 145EP, SCM Sandya Win 630, Masterwood OMB1V, Meber 600, Delta RJ42, Nederman S750, Chicago Pneumatics CPRS10500, Ceccato CDX12
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