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20th January 2018, 05:14 PM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Help with electrical issue Jet JPT310
Hi guys,
Whilst doing a bit of planing on my JPT310 this afternoon the machine lost power and tripped the circuit breaker - not sure which came first though. That is, not sure if the fuse tripped and the machine came to a stop or the machine started struggling then tripped the fuse.
In any case it tripped again when I tried to start it again (it did begin turning).
I noticed the motor / case was very hot so I opened the case and unmounted the motor, then pulled the electrical junction box open. All the mechanical parts connected to the motor turned easy so nothing was siezed on that front and I had only been doing light duty planing for maybe 20min.
This is what I found;
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So any thoughts? The inline resistor or fuse or whatever it is has no numbers or writing, just those white lines - 4 of them. Is that a 0.99ohm resistor? Not sure if it failed or if it was a sacrificial component that failed to properly sacrifice. Any thoughts if this is an easy fix or should I go through the warranty process? I really wanted to crack on with the project I was working on so don't want to wait days or weeks etc.
Should i just replace the inline resistor? Could this have caused the motor to overheat?
Any help or thoughts greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Dom
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20th January 2018, 05:39 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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It's a resistor that appears to be in series with the capacitor and was overloaded by too much current. The only way to tell its value, as the label is burnt off, is to refer to the original circuit diagram or try to measure it as it may still be intact with only the connection wire on the end dropped off.
It may have dropped its lead and the burning is a result of arcing, not likely but a possibility.
I feel that fitting a resistor to limit the current strange as using a smaller value capacitor would achieve the same result.
If that is the start capacitor then the starting circuit might be faulty and has left the start winding permanently energised and/or overloaded.
Either way I think that the best option is return to supplier for repair.
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20th January 2018, 05:42 PM #3
The lines appear to be the grooves cut in the resistve film not the color code of the device, excessive heat destroys the color codes anyway.
You would need a circuit diagram or access to a working machine to determine the value, if you were to draw out the circuit withe the remaining components it may be possible to take an educated guess of a starting value as it may just be a bleed resistor on the capacitor.
Sorry cant be of more help
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20th January 2018, 05:47 PM #4
The more i look at it the more I think it is just a bleed resistor in parallel with the capacitor, if it is it may have been like that for a long time and would not affect operation of the unit.
An open circuit bleed resistor would also not cause the issues you currently have.
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20th January 2018, 06:01 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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I agree that it appears to be a bleed resistor in parallel with the capacitor and as such should not give you the symptoms that you have experienced. A bleed resistor can be temporarily removed without affecting the operation of the motor.
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20th January 2018, 06:33 PM #6Woodworking mechanic
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Most specs say “10-20kohms at 0.5W” while others say 2W. I also can’t see it being the cause unless it somehow shorted out on the lid? Motor should still run without it.
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20th January 2018, 07:26 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks guys. So it sounds like either i've got bigger issues and that even replacing the burned out resistor won't help.
I really hope that Carbatec can just express ship out a replacement motor or that I can drive mine in and swap it over. Really don't want the machine to be out of action for more than a couple of days.
Cheers, Dom
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5th February 2018, 10:02 PM #9GOLD MEMBER
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Just a follow up to this. I rang Carbatec. They were great about it and ordered a new motor. About 8 business days later a guy came out and we replaced the motor and I'm back in action. I honestly was not expecting them to sort it out with so little fuss and to send someone out to me (assumed I'd have to do the running around). Top marks Carbatec. Very impresssed.
Cheers, Dom
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6th February 2018, 11:20 AM #10Senior Member
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Good to see that customer service is still alive and kicking. Well done
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