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  1. #1
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    Default Low end compound mitre saws

    Hi all.. first post - be gentle

    At the moment I only have hand saws and a handheld circular saw.. so next step: bench or CMS - thing is, like everyone else.. I'm broke. So the upper end of my price range is $400. Please don't suggest "saving up" - because I have, and $400 is it. So with that in mind.. I've learned (from this forum) that my options are particularly limited, but a well considered purchase might see me with something serviceable.

    I'll be cross cutting more than ripping - so my understanding is that whilst a bench saw might be able to cut & rip, in my price range it will do neither very well.

    So buying a CMS.. the concensus here is that cheaper units can be pulled out of square and often the blades wobble on their axis. So I'm left with looking for a "cheap but not cheapest" CMS or SCMS.

    My local bunnings (catalogue) Has:
    (CMS) Makita LS1040 for $359 (cutting area 90x95mm)
    (SCMS) Bosch PCM1800SD for $398 (cutting area 80x335mm)

    I'm thinking the bosch is probably a better option - the brand has a better reputation. But I'm worried that in trying to get a 'sliding' cms in the same price bracket as the cms might mean I end up with a unit which can't cut square.

    So my question I suppose is this: am I on the right track? is there anything crucial I've overlooked? and... which of these unit's would you buy?

    Thanks in advance.

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    You might just be pleasantly surprised with this unit

    TradeTools

    Mick.

    I forgot to add it is wonderfully quiet, neighbours will love you.

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    nice find ..

    The $111 freight to WA (from qld) bumps up the price for me a fair bit though.

    Will keep it in mind though thanks!

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    Hmmm, look at the first post in this thread. Then read the rest of the thread and check out the pictures.

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f171/s...review-100781/

    He lives in Perth and only paid a nominal sum, compared to your freight charge estimate. Although I will admit the price is cheaper by a fair margin to what he paid.

    It's so quiet, the neighbours think you're running a vacuum cleaner, until the timber hits the blade.

    You could telephone them, they are very service orientated, you never know what a telephone call can do when you are trying to purchase something from interstate. The computer software usually has a default high price to cover any eventualities, although I concede that QLD to the bottom left corner of OZ is a fair distance.

    Perhaps if you specify your location in your name area thingy, others may be able to offer local advice without having to find the small bit in one of your postings that gives your location.

    Did I tell you it was quiet, you can literally have a conversation with the saw running, not cutting I might add, just running.

    Mick.

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    I think I'm sold... considering my priorities are price & precision cuts - after reading that thread it seems I'd be a fool not to take your advice.

    I'll give them a call to see if there's anything which can be done about freight.. whatever the outcome it seems like a good buy.

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    You are probably going to hate me for mentioning this, but, if you do purchase one of these units, a reasonably priced aftermarket saw blade may do wonders for your cutting, and, if necessary, dust gathering capabilities.

    TradeTools

    This is a low cost alternative, nothing silly, but not top shelf, which is reflected in the price. You could also talk to staff there regarding a saw blade with no offset teeth, this is very good if you intend to do, or wish to do, cuts with a minimal ragged edge.

    They have these products, but as far as I can see they are not on their website. Walking around the floor and seeing things is great, then one asks questions and learns a bit here and there.

    Albany eh, never been the same since they stopped the whaling, the colour of the water had to be seen to be believed.

    I lived in Norseman for a while, about 40 something years ago, used to go to Albany for weekends and sometimes went via Newdegate, camping at the government tanks on Friday night then heading for Wagin at sparrows, getting to Albany around lunchtime Saturday. Left after dinner on Sunday going home via Esperance, Salmon Gums way. Getting back about 2 hours before starting work, couldn't do that if I tried these days.

    Mick.

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    I've had one of those Trade Tool saws for a couple of years now - can't fault it with the except you can't trench cut with it .

    It came with a 40 tooth 10"" blade and it still does a very nice job.

    On mine, at least, there is a specific requirement to use a negative chip blade.


    Ian

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    Mr5o1 - did you order the saw? I am also on the market for the SCMS, cannot decide between this one and makita ls1018L. I wonder how they compare in reliability and accuracy.

    Ian - is it hard to get accurate cuts with Trade Tools saw after couple of years of use - do you have to 'calibrate' it often? How is the build quality compared to makitas?

    Thank you in advance

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    Ilya,
    I can't do a comparison with any other SCMS because it's the only one I've ever owned but I can say this ...Once I set it up it has remained accurate and cuts very cleanly.

    I used one of those wixie digital angle meters to calibrate it and I have checked it a couple of times since but I have never had to re-calibrate it and it's done it's fair share of work.

    Ian

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    Thanks Ian, sounds encouraging!

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