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2nd February 2019, 04:25 PM #1New Member
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Machinery and rusting....
Hello, fresh noob here having never done any kind of woodwork in my life apart from drilling a hole to hang something up, didn't even take it at school as had absolutely no interest.
As I got older I started watching some videos on youtube that randomly popped up and for the past few years have watched quite a bit and now do have an interest and want to try it out.
A few weeks ago a I got a drill press of a friend who was just going to throw it away, not sure what it is, just one of those crappy $100 ones that look all the same with a different name.
Anyway I had nowhere inside to put it and I don't have a shed so it just sits outside on a table under full cover and after not even 3 weeks there is already rust over any of the parts which are bare metal.
We are only about ... 3km or so from the coast but I didn't think being under full cover and it only raining once (which the cover protects it from as well) would have rusted it in such a short time.
So my question is, if I put up just a regular ole metal shed that isn't insulated or air conditioned, would it still have rusted?
Obviously I don't want to build a shed and start buying machinery if it's just going to rust in no time.
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2nd February 2019, 06:02 PM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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Use some old towels with a spray of WD 40 sprayed over the tool,check it regularly
Just covering over will not protect itLast edited by nrb; 2nd February 2019 at 06:05 PM. Reason: More comments
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2nd February 2019, 07:38 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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If water didn't get to it directly then its probably the humidity.
My non expert advice:
Clean the rust off with WD40 and fine steel wool. or whatever you favourite method is. Then spray all metal with Lanotech.
After use clean off wood dust and dirt. It attracts moisture and will breed rust.
Then place an old towel or cotton sheet over it. The old towel should not turn damp in a ventilated space. If it does you have water coming from somewhere.
Respray with Lanotech a few times a year or as needed.
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2nd February 2019, 08:12 PM #4GOLD MEMBER
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To answer your specific question. I have one of those same $100 drill presses, sitting uncovered and unused in a tin-roofed shed for about 15 months. It has some surface rust - nothing too bad and I could remove the rust and prevent it re-occurring fairly easily if motivated. We’re about 3km from an ocean beach (with salt spray) and 20 meters from an estuarine beach (ie no surf spray that side). Most of my other machines in the shed have covers made from painters drop cloths and are also unused, but I haven’t noticed any real problem rust. I wiped them down with preventative once.
So they should be ok in the shed.Apologies for unnoticed autocomplete errors.
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2nd February 2019, 09:44 PM #5China
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The fact is any bare metal will rust with out some type of protection, that is a film of oil or something more exotic, my mate who lives in Andamooka has rust on his machines if he does not apply protection and Andamooka
is about as far away from the sea as you can get
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3rd February 2019, 10:51 AM #6
I have been using a tin shed for about 15 years and no serious rusting issues. You still need to keep an eye on tools and machines and clean rust spots as they appear but thats only a couple of times a year. Good ventilation like a whirly bird vent on the roof helps. You are going to need a shed to woodwork in anyhow and a tin one is the most affordable.
Just got around to insulation after all that time as it was like an oven this time of year. Huge improvement.
Regards
John
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3rd February 2019, 01:36 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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I have not had any real success with WD40 as a preventative. I have used Ferro-pack G15 for a long time with great success. Many items are on the verandah, and I'm only 150m from salt water. I do also cover things with a cotton cloth (old sheets Etc)
Available from several places including Jim Dave and Carbatec. Eg
https://www.carbatec.com.au/workshop...lass-2-aerosol
Jim's price is much cheaper, but he doesn't post it so you have to buy from him at woodwork shows or his NSW South Coast location
Jim Davey - Woodworking Hand Tools - eShop - Sales
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3rd February 2019, 03:17 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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Last year I switched to, "WD40 Specialist Anti-Friction Dry PTFE Lubricant," mainly because I was purchasing a wood lathe with steel bed ways, as opposed to cast iron bed ways. The manufacturer of my lathe suggested this was the best way to keep the steel from forming rust, as well as protecting everything.
I duly sought and found this product, online via Super Cheap Auto, or straight from the shelf in a Bunnings Tool Shop.
http://www.wd40.com.au/products/wd-4...0g-smart-staw/
As I understand it, it is essentially a liquid Teflon.
My experience with this was so good, I have now sprayed and wiped this onto pretty much everything that is bare metal in my shed.
Mick.
Edit: forgot to add, we are approximately 3,999 metres from the coast, according to my push bike odometer.
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25th April 2019, 04:15 PM #10Tool addict
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I've been using CRC 3-36 with pretty good results.
About $14 a can from Blackwoods, though I don't remember what the delivery charge is like.
https://www.crcindustries.com/produc...-oz-03005.html
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