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    Default Oscillating spindle sander

    I'm thinking about buying an oscillating spindle sander, and need a bit of advice! Looking at what's available, the choice seems to be a benchtop Sheppach from Hafco (about $300), or a slightly bigger stand mounted unit (Hafco and Laguna have machines in this category at around $500 and $850 respectively), or biting the built and throwing a couple of thousand+ at a floor standing machine from Hafco. I believe Record may have a floor standing machine (though it looks far less "floor standing" than the Hafco) but I'm not sure if it's currently available in Australia, and GPW have one that looks similar to the Hafco but far cheaper (not sure why, and QLD is too far to go and look!).

    The Laguna spindles start at 1/4" and go to 3", whilst the Scheppach and Hafco bench/stand machines start at 1/2" and run to 2" (Hafco) and 3" (Scheppach). The Laguna, however, has a big "step" in the middle and goes from 16mm to 38mm, whilst the other two have 1" spindles. It seems to me that "on average" the middle sizes might be more useful than the extremes, so perhaps the Laguna missing the 1" might be a problem?

    The floor standing machines have longer spindles (and more sizes), but I'm not sure whether I need to sand material that deep. They also seem to have longer strokes and a higher spindle oscillation rate, but at between three and five times the price I'm not sure whether that's worth the cost - or that there aren't other things I'd prefer to spend those $ on!

    I realise that the "value" of these machines comes down to how much, and what, I'll use them for, but does anyone have any experience or thoughts to share? Are the 1/4" and 3" spindles really very useful, at least in the trade-off of the Laguna missing the 1" size?

    Any thoughts greatly appreciated!

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    I can't comment on those specific machines, but the spindle size really comes down do what you intend to make; ideally, you'd use the largest spindle that will fit to get the most consistent curve. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they all use the same interface anyway, so buying the missing size is probably an easy solution either way

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    I can see the larger spindles having some use, but I can't remember an instance where I've needed to sand something that would require a 1/4" spindle...

    The pictures on the H&F website show their stand mounted machine has spindles with a thread at the base. I'm guessing the mechanism for holding the abrasive is simply a rubber sleeve that is compressed (to expand it) by a nut at the end. That being the case it shouldn't be hard to manufacture spindles, or swap the rubber sleeves on the existing ones. I wonder if the Laguna uses the same mounting system?

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    I have had the OS58 For a few years now. It doesn’t get used everyday maybe a few times a year but it works perfectly fine, makes plenty of dust that is sucked into my dust extractor even though it has a small rear port. I am sure it is not collecting the nasty unseen dust. A hood would be a wise addition one day. Power wise I think with the largest spindle and way too much pressure you can stall the unit, but that is not how you are supposed to use them(learning curve, no need to push that hard). Bang for buck, glad I purchased, did I need to spend another few hundred dollars for a tilt table, nope. If I need to sand on an angle I have a scms that will make the wedge so I can sand on an angle - haven’t needed to yet. I bought a heap of sanding sizes from “sandman” forum sponsor and all work really well.
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    I have the Triton triton oscillating - Google Search which is exactly the same as the Scheppach in fact there are about 5 or 6 brands that are all the same and it works well and I'm happy with it for what I do but they certainly are the cheapest. No problems changing spindles and they lock in tight.

    Alternative https://www.timbecon.com.au/oscillating-spindle-sander. I've seen this in the flesh and it is a step up in quality (more solid with a better cast iron top and can tilt at at any angle) but maybe not performance.

    EDIT ..... I just noticed the price of the Triton at Just tools is $395 and earlier this year I paid $250. That's a huge jump. Maybe the Timbecon is a better buy. Interestingly Carbatec which used to sell the very good quality Jet sander no longer stock any of them. Also the Laguna spindle sander is over $2000. How did you come up with $850?

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    My two penny.

    I rarely buy new tools/equipment. So figured the small Schappach unit will be hardly used so might be worth buying new as these things don't seem to come up used very often. 2.5 years later and its sitting in landfill somewhere. Unit was probably used at most a dozen times during this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barri View Post
    Also the Laguna spindle sander is over $2000. How did you come up with $850?
    Trend Timbers have two Laguna machines listed, one is a floor standing unit for nearly $3K, the other is described as "bench type", but is shown on a stand which I assume (the height is stated to be 990mm) is included, for $850. This second machine looks similar in spec to the Jet BOS-5, with much the same spindles sizes (so possibly clones!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonzeyd View Post
    I rarely buy new tools/equipment. So figured the small Schappach unit will be hardly used so might be worth buying new as these things don't seem to come up used very often. 2.5 years later and its sitting in landfill somewhere. Unit was probably used at most a dozen times during this time.
    Noted, thank you. I have experienced Scheppach in the past. I have one of their sharpening systems (cut price Tormek) and whilst it worked (within reason) the leather shrank and peeled off the honing wheel. I then discovered they had changed the design of the wheel, and they no longer sell the old version........ Doesn't worry me because I don't use it (which is why I haven't ever bothered fixing it), but it did rather put me off their products!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrongwayfirst View Post
    I have had the OS58 For a few years now. It doesn’t get used everyday maybe a few times a year but it works perfectly fine, makes plenty of dust that is sucked into my dust extractor even though it has a small rear port.
    I've not been able to look at any of these machines in person, but the OS58 was on the list. I was slightly concerned because I had an issue with a Scheppach sharpener, where they changed the design of a component and no longer sell the old version - and the new one is stated as not being compatible with the older machine. Whilst this is probably par for the course with "budget" equipment, it did put me off a bit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warb View Post
    Noted, thank you. I have experienced Scheppach in the past. I have one of their sharpening systems (cut price Tormek) and whilst it worked (within reason) the leather shrank and peeled off the honing wheel. I then discovered they had changed the design of the wheel, and they no longer sell the old version........ Doesn't worry me because I don't use it (which is why I haven't ever bothered fixing it), but it did rather put me off their products!

    Sadly, i'm in the same boat. The grinder leaves alot to be desired so I can't wait for mine to die, been wanting an excuse to replace it.. Its currently only being used to sharpen turning tools, which despite the wheel wobbles does a solid job. A square chisel on the other hand and i just end up with skews.

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