Thread: Are There Any Aids To Seeing ?

abrogard,

Ignore those Cig welding salespeople.

As BenM78 said, 0.6 wire with gas for the body panels. That's the most conventional solution. Can your welder run with gas?

Different tools for different jobs. That applies for the helmet as well.
A bad helmet is good enough for some rough work. Delicate stuff needs better helmets.

As for your fluxcore link : Gasless MIG Welding
I don't see anything about wire thickness or material thickness.

The thin-metal link, he used gas.

For your previous post with your fluxcore welds. They aren't looking so hot but you already know that. You could bolt the metal together because it would have more strength. A couple of joining plates etc. Welding isn't always the best solution. (Especially if you're knocking holes through it via welding)

Well Dave got a phone call and an email from the fluxcore people. He's passed the email on to me. It has an attachment, a spec sheet for the wire.

The techie stated unequivocally that the wire was suitable for such welding and was capable of doing the job. However, the job wouldn't look so pretty. Until it was cleaned up. That's the nature of fluxcore and gal welding.

But a good, "proper" weld, yes.

I've attached the .pdf file that is the spec sheet.

The techie refuted the contention that the technology was basically wrong, not valid in such a wire size.

So that convinces me.

I can continue trying to weld this material with this wire. If I can find a way to see the job. Maybe a diopter lens and a nail fastened to the shroud and well chalked joint.

But no one - including that techie - is saying that it is easy. By its very nature there'll be spatter and a sloppy looking weld and even the wire seems to move around on its own.

So I might be better off dodging the whole thing and getting gas and 0.6mm wire. Or using oxy.

But first, considering all of this is about my desire to teach myself to be able to weld up car panels, I'd better get some practice on car panel non-galvanised material and see how that goes. What sort of material is that? What sort of typical thickness? Thinner than 1mm I think? What sort of steel? Someone told me car panels are made of special strong steel. But do we weld in ordinary mild steel or we have to get 'car steel' to weld in?

Maybe all those questions belong in another thread.

This thread was about seeing.

It got sidetracked into the validity of the job.

I think both of those questions are just about properly answered now.

1. There's various aids to seeing been mentioned. I've just got to try them all.

2. The job is valid but no one says it is easy.


And thanks very, very much to everyone who has helped by contributing to the thread.

regards,

ab

Well if it's in the CIG pocket guide, it must be true.

"Smooth stable arcing and excellent fillet shape
and edge wetting are achieved when welding
galvanised steel fixtures."

They suggest it will work for 1mm.

I guess there's no harm still trying since you've already got the 0.8 wire!

Hi...

they 'suggest' alright:

"When ‘tuned in’ to the optimum current and voltage settings the wide range of wire sizes (0.8mm and 0.9mm) can easily be used in all welding positions, including vertical-up/down and overhead, on materials as thin as 1.0mm."

And 'trying' is what I'm doing all the time........ poor deluded fool that I am..