Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Needs Pictures Needs Pictures:  0
Picture(s) thanks Picture(s) thanks:  0
Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    3

    Default Brazing for bicycle frames

    hi all,
    i want to learn the basics of metalwork and brazing so that I can try building my own bike frame. I have a fair bit of experience in bike mechanics, but my metalwork experience is limited to high school. What I'm after is how to join a lugged steel frame using silver, bronze or nickel brazing.

    I live in Sydney and was looking at a community college courses or TAFE course, but many of them focus on welding — and while I would like to learn that as well, I don't know what's the best course of study. Does anyone have any suggestions for courses?
    thanks in advance …

    Patrick

  2. # ADS
    Google Adsense Advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Posts
    Many





     
  3. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Oatley NSW
    Age
    69
    Posts
    244

    Default Brazing for bicycle frames

    Try the Welding Forum as they may be able to answer your questions better.
    Contact TAFE and ask where there are cources on Panel Beating as they cover Brazing as well as a suggestion.

    Regards,
    Keith.

  4. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Charlestown NSW
    Age
    65
    Posts
    899

    Default

    Patrick
    These competency units cover brazing & silver soldering.

    AURV281208A Carry out brazing procedures - Unit Guide available
    MEM05006B Perform brazing and/or silver soldering - Unit Guide available
    MEM5.6AA Perform brazing and/or silver soldering - Unit Guide available

    Check with the closest TAFE college that has Panel bashing (as Keith said) or welding.
    Thes units will be part of a course. Not sure if you can do any of them as a stand alone. It would be an expensive way to do it anyway as you would still have to enroll for a minimum of 1 semester(1/2 year) My suggestion is you enquire about both welding and panel beating to find out what other units are in the course and then decide which others would be of most use to you.
    You might even find a college that delivers some of the units as flexible delivery, though being a largely "hands on" subject I doubt if flex del would be available.
    I'm not sure what is being offered in welding these days but a basic welding course might be most suited to you. Something with these competency units maybe.
    AUR23608A Carry out welding, soldering, thermal cutting and thermal heating procedures - Delivery of this Unit of Competency is via enrolment in a module/s
    AUR23708A Carry out welding, thermal cutting and heating procedures - Delivery of this Unit of Competency is via enrolment in a module/s

    You would still have to enrol and you can't do that now until next year. Be aware that due to demand some courses are by application so it would be a good idea to get all the info sometime soon, so if you do have to apply, you don't leave it too late.

    Hope this helps

    regards
    bollie7

  5. #4
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    3

    Default

    Thanks for your help Keith and Bollie — I'll look into your suggestions and get some information for the next available semester.

  6. #5
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Kuranda, paradise, North Qld
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,639

    Default

    Patrick,
    just wondering how you will source/make your lugs? If you haven't worked this out yet you might be better off learning how to Tig weld and doing away with the lugs.

    Mick
    "If you need a machine today and don't buy it,

    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

  7. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Gold Coast,Australia
    Age
    49
    Posts
    350

    Default

    www.ceeway.com for lugs and bike items.

    they are great and have no issues posting to AUS.

    G

  8. #7
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    3

    Default

    Hi Mick, thanks for the suggestion but I quite like the look and feel of a decent lugged frame, so I would prefer to stick to that method. Also, I have heard that as a beginner, it's much easier to achieve acceptable results when brazing a lugged frame than welding, not sure if that's true. There's quite a few places in the UK and the US that provide lugs and tubing for framebuilding — many of them will post to Oz. Ceeway mentioned above will provide a whole kit of tubes, lugs, bottom bracket and dropouts. If you're interested there's a few resources for framebuilding on my delicious page at http://delicious.com/hemingway44/framebuilding

  9. #8
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Kuranda, paradise, North Qld
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,639

    Default

    Patrick,
    you heard right, it will be uch easier to master brazing into a lug rather than shaping an angled junction and tig welding it. I had no idea you could buy lugs etc, never really flet the need to look into building a bike, I've got too many interests as it is and barely get time to ride the bikes I do own.

    Mick
    "If you need a machine today and don't buy it,

    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

Similar Threads

  1. Bicycle
    By Elbow in forum WOODIES JOKES
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 30th November 2007, 09:11 PM
  2. Brazing
    By garym in forum METALWORK FORUM
    Replies: 34
    Last Post: 9th August 2007, 12:12 AM
  3. Help with brazing with MAP
    By BobL in forum METALWORK FORUM
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 5th November 2006, 03:28 PM
  4. My brother's new bicycle
    By bitingmidge in forum METALWORK FORUM
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 23rd October 2006, 11:29 AM
  5. model bicycle
    By mikeyfreeman in forum WOODTURNING - GENERAL
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 15th February 2005, 12:33 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •