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Thread: co2 for mig welding
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24th July 2010, 11:56 PM #16
Hi John,
Our brothers in the DIY section are not utilising the CO2 system for what is was designed for.It is a one only designated flat position due to the greater heat and volume of the arc.For those that don't know Co2 what it was designed for was to deliver deep penetrating fillets from 2.5mm wire. 20mm fillets in one pass were not uncommon.If welding bridge beams this is useful.
In addition I honestly believe many of them have never used an Argo shield system to the full limits of its versatility and potential.
Unfortunately they are doomed to sacrifice quality of appearance and positional capability from Co2 for low cost.
Yes its cheap but the qualifier is that it is not effective that Co2 is not used in industry(outside of what is used above ) as it non positional and needs excessive clean up and still does not produce a good appearance after clean up.
Mig means Metal Inert Gas where as the Co2 shielding is a reactive gas and so is designated MAG. Visit any sheet metal works and you won't find Co2 as a shielding gas .
Grahame
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25th July 2010, 10:46 AM #17Senior Member
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I was planning on trying CO2 shielding when I buy a big kickass welder... good to hear youve had success with it. I spend most of my time welding thicker material so I sounds like it should work quite well for me.
Where did you get your regulator and the cylinder from? I was going to ask some other questions but I just googled them and found the answers in an earlier thread.
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f160/c...welding-96965/
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3rd August 2010, 06:58 PM #18Intermediate Member
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I concur with Graeme.
We used to use C02 with 1.6mm flux cored on heavy plates. It was a reasonable finish, but the spatter was usually big globules that usually needed grinding off rather than a quick scrape. The arc was not really a spray, but a transfer of globules. This is what makes it unsuited to light work as well.
When the company changed to Argon blends of gases, the finish and general workability of the same wire improved greatly. The spatter usually only needed a scrape to remove. The arc had become a spray transfer, hence better control and finish.
It may be worth noting that different gases give different characteristics to the welds and welding and in some cases may create some undesirable results. ie. brittleness and porosity and lack of fusion and/or general tensile strength. Even in Argon blends, different gases suit different conditions.
It may be of little consequence in some minor handyman items, but when it comes to critical items like towing hooks and lifting points, etc then it becomes a different ballgame.
We speak from a trade background where specific rules and standards apply to us, as any tradesman has to work to. There are always different ways to do things, but it doesn't necessarily make it right and/or practical.
I'll get off my soap box now......
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