Thread: Need help getting my 8g mig (a.s. 1796)

Originally Posted by dburto

[SIZE=3]Im in the middle of doing my structural steel ticket at my local training centre and my trainer has advised me after 2 weeks that i am good enough to pass the 8G test.

I have been told that i need a welding/fabrication company to endorse me as a welder and also that i need to learn metalurgy...

Hi dburto
Please take the following comments as intended ok ?-as constructive - not a put down of any sort.

I take it that you are not a welding tradesman -re the attendance at the training center.

Therein lays the problem.Unless the pre reqs for gaining a certificate under As1796 have changed over the last several years-you need to have been in a metals or related trade to be issued a certificate. As1796 is basically a Pressure Vessel certificate, where as going by your comments you are trying to break in to general construction.
This is a cut and paste -part of the entry requirements for As1796 -Ballarat Tafe
"Entry Requirements

Entry Requirements
The majority of students entering the Welding Certificate AS 1796 are expected to have one or a combination of the following educational backgrounds:
- Certificate III in Engineering - Fabrication/Mechanical Trade
- Certificate III in Engineering Production - Technology / Systems
- Approved Industrial training and experience
- Mature age entry
- Pre-requisite modules in the selected stream

Extra Requirements

Minimum of two years Fabrication Industry experience and completion of a minimum of 60 hours of training in welding process relevant to the Welding Certificate. "

I believe the As certificate that you need to take on is AS 20 something-for the life of me -I cant remember the last 2 digits.
Its a far more useful and easier to attain certificate-check out your local tafe.

Edit Now I know it-

AS 2980-2004 Qualification of welders for fusion welding of steels

Cheers
Grahame

G'day Graeme

thanks for the help... I should have told you about my work history when i asked that question, i didnt dawn on me unfortunatly...

I have been in metal trades since i started working at 16... I've fabricated and welded trailers and concrete trucks chassis's, aswell as being a trades assistant to several fitters in maintenance postions for 2 years... I dont have a "trade certificate" as such but i have completed courses in;

- Basic mig, tig and stick welding courses

- Basic and advanced fabrication courses

- Weld preperation

- Mark off/mark out

- Interpret technical drawing

- Technical drawing both on paper and on Autocad

- etc........

I have heaps of these courses and thousands of hours of welding and fabrication to my name... Does this count for anything or will i need to still follow the path you have so kindly suggested?

Thanks again for the help mate...

Cheers

Daniel

Hi again,
Thats different then
With all that behind you you should be a shoe under"approved industrial experience".

A copy of AS1796 is a must.
Get one and learn it inside out as far as the 8g section is concerned.

Understand what the things that they will fail a set of test coupons on and eliminate all those cause.

A couple of posts below a guy called Paulo is doing the same thing basicaly but in the tig test.
You might read that.

Grahame

Hi Dburto
a few points for you
The local training centre should give you all the info you need to get endorsed
generally if you are not trade qualified, you need to have completed basic inter and adv course of the process you are going to use in the certificate eg MIG in your case

There are two parts to the course you need to do the prac and the theory and pass both tests

Then you need to get an organisation you have worked for to provide a letter to verify that you have used the process for a year to get it endorsed by either the WTIA or worksafe depending where you are in Aust

with regard to egtting some local companies to give you a go having a cert/ticket will help

before you sit the test you should do some practice pieces and do some destructive test on them eg nick, bends and fillet breaks to ensure you have fusion

I have been involved with this sort of thing for over ten years and in my opinion 8G is the hardest due to the lack of fusion problems associated with MIG

Good Luck
R
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