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23rd May 2010, 03:27 PM #46
Gidday
One of the true dark arts of the welding game is learning how to flame straighten all manner of steel sections. Its a skill passed down from the 'collective knowledge' of the workshop and is an 'ART' all apprentices have to master......................
Most often the 'old boys' in the workshop i'll take great pleasure in teaching and passing down the best way to go about straightening a bent beam or other such steel sections after welding...........or the result of some kind of damage.
N is pretty much something your expected to be able to do in most circumstances by 3rd year as an apprentice...........
Ive had good runs n dam right painstaking times trying to straighten beams after welding. Its one of those arts that you develop with time and experience n those of you who've done it ill relate to the joys of success and those times when steel just seemingly dosen't want to do what its told............
Heres a great article that i stumbled across that really helped my flame straightening skills come along in leaps and bounds.
Guide for Heat-Straightening of Damaged Steel Bridge Members - Integrated - Bridge - FHWA
Certainly dosen't beat the experience of an 'old hand' but helps kick you along with the basics and gives you a point of reference to start from!
Regards LouJust Do The Best You Can With What You HAve At The Time
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25th May 2010, 01:22 AM #47Wood and Metal Enthusiast
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Thanks Lou, that link was very informative. I was curious, are there any books you would recommend to anyone starting out?
Cheers
UglyDanLive life to the fullest, you have to go big and do everything with your all or why do it at all?
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25th May 2010, 07:17 PM #48
Gidday Dan
No books to recommend to date Ive found most books pretty dry technical and sprayed with a lot of information I dont need............they also tend to cost a fortune!
Lucky for us theres some great resources right here on the internet!
Heres some of my personal favorites:
Welding Tips and Tricks - TIG, MIG, Stick and a pantload of other info
Sheet metal fabrication news, rss, downloads, tutorials
TheFabricator
Welding-Plan Advice and Practical Solutions for welders...
Miller - Welding Equipment - MIG/TIG/Stick Welders & Plasma Cutting
Hobart Welders
http://weldingweb.com/index.php
Also theres some excellent Welding stuff on UTube its well worth having a look around I can remember being awe struck by watching some gun tig welders walking the cup 4 the 1st time.....................Amazing stuff!!!!!
Regards LouJust Do The Best You Can With What You HAve At The Time
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27th May 2010, 09:22 PM #49Senior Member
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Good to see a lot of enthusiasm for the metal trades from both new and old tradespersons alike!
I spent some time at uni and ended up with a degree no employer wanted, spent some time in food transport, which paid the bills (quite well actually) but engineering had always been my passion. I had an offer to become a welder/fabricator and I took it.
My love of welding started when I was rebuilding a HK Holden and instead of following the quick and lovely fibreglass & bog approach to rust repairs I bought myself a little Transmig 135 and replaced the rust with steel instead. The projects got bigger and better from there.
I moved on from the first enginnering company to another after the first closed down, and I was constantly frustrated that my wages were half that of the so called 'tradesmen', especially after they told me stories of their trade school experiences - which they treated as boozy holidays from work, drinking to 3am, sleeping in their clothes and pulling on their boots at 6am to go to TAFE. These so called tradesmen would then come to me figure out their problems or interpret drawings.
Finally a lot of my self-taught talent was recognised and I have been a CAD/CAM programmer for the last seven years- some would say tradesperson's dream- but the reality is that it is another mundane desk job.
I started going to TAFE about five years ago (at age 33) and now I have a diploma in engineering as well as several qualifications in welding. The TAFE welding instructors (one in particular) practically begged me back to take it further, he thought I was so good.
My ultimate goal was to get out of programming and get back on the tools as a welder but through a strange twist of fate my back #### itself and since I have had surgery I have to watch myself, but my current employer heard my frustration about wanting to leave so he hired another programmer, sacked the production manager (who appeared to have plans for ruthless world domination) and gave me his job!
The moral of the story: employers (the good ones) recognise diversity of talent and if you have changed from another career to become a welder will you stand out from the crowd, and the opportunities will be many and varied. You will be seen to have more drive, flexibility and willingness to learn.
At very least, you will be making choices about your own destiny which a huge portion of the human race seem incabable, and follow the careers that they have fallen into by accident, like a stylus in the groove of a record. Those dickheads in your trade classes fall into this catagory.
To those girls trying to get into the trade- you go girl! Real feminism (ie equality) starts in the work shop, and all you blokes should do your best to make them feel welcome. A much better idea than this 'politically correct reverse discrimination' that sends women directly to management that has existed for the last decade or so. Let us not forget that women built many of the tanks, planes etc that allowed us to speak (type) English today.
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28th May 2010, 05:03 PM #50dave the plummer
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the journey
all good lou but remember, " those who can, do. those who can't, teach." You will do well if you keep your attitude and ethics with you out in the field and learn a few tricks from the old boilys in the real world....good on ya for telling it like it is and all the best. old mate.
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4th December 2010, 06:29 PM #51
Whooooooo Whoooooooo
Yiiiiippppppeeeeeeee
Ive officially just completed 3rd year and all my TAFE! Thx to all that have helped me out along the way is a great feeling being on the downhill run..........................
Heres a great Welding related resource page that ive found really handy from time to time:
Welding and Joining Resources: Types of Welding, History and Welding School Directories
So I guess the next step is to start thinking about where to from here???
At this stage ive decided to focus on developing my Tig and Stick skills further N not to far down the track go for my pressure tickets!
Its time to start thinking about how to make some cash lol n lots of it!!!!! Must admit i certainly aint gonna miss apprentice wages!!!!!
Regards LouJust Do The Best You Can With What You HAve At The Time
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4th December 2010, 11:52 PM #54
Thx Lignum
Miss hanging out with you guys in the Woodies section but once im back on my feet cant wait to get a bunch a new tools finish my workbench n get back into it. Was hard selling all my gear but was able to get a great little tig welder with the proceeds thats allowed me to really develop some skills...........................
..........................................Almost there !!!!!
Regards LouJust Do The Best You Can With What You HAve At The Time
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13th December 2010, 10:24 AM #55Wood and Metal Enthusiast
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Hey NewLou,
Been reading your threads for awhile now, so thanks for sharing, i reacon a few of us picked up some great info.
Well done on completing TAFE! Must feel greatLive life to the fullest, you have to go big and do everything with your all or why do it at all?
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15th December 2011, 11:46 PM #56
Well Its official
The boss signed me off last week..................
Ive become a Tradie (Scary thought huh) and officially finished my apprenticeship!!!!!!!!!!!
Whoooooooooooooo Hooooooooooooooooo!
A big thanks to all the well wishers n mentors along the way it all helps
Regards
LouJust Do The Best You Can With What You HAve At The Time
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16th December 2011, 05:43 AM #57
Well Done Lou!
Pat
Work is a necessary evil to be avoided. Mark Twain
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16th December 2011, 07:43 AM #58
Congratulations Lou,
I can only wish that more young apprentices will be as interested and conscientious about their chosen trade, as you are.
Well done Mate!
Grahame
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16th December 2011, 11:04 AM #59.
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Onya Lou!
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16th December 2011, 06:14 PM #60Hammer Head
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wow the last few years went quick,
have a nice new year with the pay rise
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