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19th March 2011, 11:55 PM #1future machinist
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welding trailer hubs
can you weld trailer hubs i tried today put the welds snapped i will try to bevel and try again.i am building a concrete mixer and need to welds some tabs to the hub.
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20th March 2011, 09:56 AM #2
Hi,
There a bunch of unknowns and potential variables there.
First up, are you 100% positive you are welding steel to steel?
Secondly the process you are using ,what is it ,stick or mig?
Thirdly,the joint fit up and prepation.Is it suitably prepared to be to take the weld deposit enabling a decent weld strength.Has the preps been veed out to a sufficient degree to fill up with the weld?
Forthly the type of consumable you are using .Is it
Stick electrode.type ,diameter
Wire feed electrode
Fifthly ,machine adjustment,
Amperage setting or ammps volts if mig
Answering those questions may enable some of us to help with the solution.
Pics help alot
Are you welding hubs (pic 1) to something or welding axle stubs (pic 2) to axle tubes?
Hubs, I suspect are cast iron and don't weld very well to steel.
Grahame
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20th March 2011, 10:34 AM #3future machinist
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im using stick welding and kobe 7018 rods on dc+ at about 135 amps. im pretty sure the hubs are steel as a magnet stuck really well to them. i will vee it out and try again.
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20th March 2011, 11:09 AM #4GOLD MEMBER
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You DO understand THAT Castiron is ALSO MAGNETIC?
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20th March 2011, 11:20 AM #5future machinist
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no i will check by drilling it thanks pipeclay
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20th March 2011, 01:47 PM #6
To distinguish cast iron from steel observe the sparks coming off the grinder.
Cast iron is very red with short sprigs while steel is yellow with multi forking sprigs.
Stub axles( from a trailer parts supplier) to suit the hubs will be steel and can be readily welded to the steel legs of the mixer.
Kobe 7018 at 135 are ok if 3.2mm and on trans/rectifier/generator machine are ok -bit less say 125 on inverter.
Grahame
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20th March 2011, 05:22 PM #7
You can almost garrantee that the hubs will be cast iron. I have never seen them successfully welded. I have in the past built them up with bronze to be turned out, but not with a steel or nickel weld.
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21st March 2011, 12:07 PM #8Member
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You can get steel flange-less hubs from places like Martin's Trailer Parts - Stock Items for around $60 each - they're used for making things like swing-away spare wheel carriers for 4wds.
It might be easier to use something like that, rather than trying to weld your cast hub?
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28th March 2011, 07:46 PM #9Intermediate Member
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Are you trying to weld the hub or the stub axle?
I've seen Holden /Falcon stub axles welded successfully, at a guess I'd say the axles and hubs are
cast steel.
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