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    Default Buffalo Forge Post Drill

    Well, I found a post drill at a reasonable price, and it's on it's way. To be honest, I don't know enough to know if it's complete and working or not, but I'm hoping there's not too much wrong with it.
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    Is there any more coming or is that all? Seems to be a few part missing

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedbound View Post
    Is there any more coming or is that all? Seems to be a few part missing
    Not really what I was hoping to hear

    I don't know - the auction was closing and it was cheap enough that if it's only use is as parts or decorative, I can live with that, although obviously I'm hoping that when I open the box, it's complete.

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    Doesn't seem to have the table and post that it attaches to in the early photos.
    Though it could be in the pile.
    See others here: Photo Index - Buffalo Forge Co. - Post Drill | VintageMachinery.org

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    Hope they turn up, they would make it a good usable item,

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedbound View Post
    Hope they turn up, they would make it a good usable item,
    Me too. If they don't I might be able to cobble something together anyway. And even if it's totally unusable, it'll not be the first nor the last tool I've bought that I shouldn't have

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    There is a couple of post drill enthusiasts on here maybe someone maybe able to help out. As already stated, the three things I noticed was the post, table and post support.

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    The table and post with support are indeed missing. I've emailed the seller including a picture in the hope that they're lying around there somewhere. There's an old estate nearby which has a museum and the old tool section is run by the vintage tractor club. They might have some parts or might let me borrow the table and support to get new ones cast, although I suspect that'll not be cheap, and I'm not about to set up a forge at this stage. I'll start keeping an eye out for parts on eBay too. If the worst comes to the worst I can use a table from any old drill press until I get the correct ones.

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    Where are you located?

    Looking at the photos what you have looks complete and has none of the usual damage.

    Unfortunately someone has separated the post/pillar from it and the attached parts. These will include the post, the yolk & table, along with the foot bracket for mounting the post.

    Myself and Vann are probably the biggest drill nuts on here. I'm going to be making some parts for his drills shortly and we both have restored some pretty poor candidates.

    Any questions, happy to help as much as possible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DSEL74 View Post
    Where are you located?
    I'm in South Africa, which makes swapping or buying parts expensive.


    Quote Originally Posted by DSEL74 View Post
    Looking at the photos what you have looks complete and has none of the usual damage.

    Unfortunately someone has separated the post/pillar from it and the attached parts. These will include the post, the yolk & table, along with the foot bracket for mounting the post.

    Myself and Vann are probably the biggest drill nuts on here. I'm going to be making some parts for his drills shortly and we both have restored some pretty poor candidates.
    It looks to be in pretty good condition to me - I suspect that somewhere along the way the post was removed to make it easier to transport or store and it's lying somewhere and no-one knows what it's off. I haven't heard back from the seller yet, and would be surprised if he has the missing bits.

    What parts are you going to be making? Even though shipping isn't cheap, it may well be the quickest way to get this one back into shape.


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    Thanks a million, always appreciate the helpfulness of everyone here

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    Hi Colin.

    That looks like a Buffalo Forge No.61, which is almost identical to my Canadian Blower & Forge No.61 (Canadian Blower & Forge was set up as the Canadian division of Buffalo Forge).

    Post Drill - Canadian Blower & Forge No.61

    The main difference being Buffalo had five spoke flywheels, versus 4 spoke on the Canadian models. I think there are also differences in the coupler (between feed-screw and spindle). And Buffalo painted theirs black (not grey).

    Yours looks very complete at the top end, and should make a good working post drill. Unfortunately, as others have said, you're missing the bottom end (as is mine). A weak point on the No.61 is the mainframe casting which tends to get broken (behind where the flywheel cog and crank cogs mesh). Yours looks to be unbroken. Good find.

    DSEL is making me some shafts for crank handles, as several of my post drills have missing or damaged crank arms/handles. Again, yours appear to be complete.

    I can measure up the column/pillar for my No.61 if you want, and I think I have a foot somewhere (for measuring, not selling ). But I'm missing the table. From memory, mine has a single piece table, but yours should have a separate support yoke and pivoting table (another difference between the two divisions - but only for the No.61).

    I have used mine to drill holes with Forstner bits. It works well. The revs are a bit low for twist bits.

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    Yes, it's a No. 61R (I'm not sure if the R makes a difference or not). I can't see any cracks or damage to the castings, and I'm pretty happy with my purchase, even though it's not 100% complete. The seller has come back to me to say that they sell the items as they get them and that's all there was. So, somewhere in a shed, is the rest of it, and no-one has a clue what it's for.

    I'd appreciate the measurements of the column and the foot, if you get a chance.

    I've got a piece of very old sneezewood fence post that I'd like to mount it on. At this stage, I'm planning to clean it up a bit and lubricate it, but not do a full restore, as I quite like the 'used' look.

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    The No.61R is an updated No.61.

    Again going from memory, CB&F updated their No.61 either late 1910s or 1920s. In the case of CB&F they went away from their one-piece bracket and table (which I'm not sure Buffalo ever used) to a seperate cast table support yoke and a pressed steel table.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin62 View Post
    ...So, somewhere in a shed, is the rest of it, and no-one has a clue what it's for...
    Don't you just hate the thought

    I'll photograph and measure the column and the foot, in the next day or two.

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    Okay, so maybe my memory doesn't serve me so well. It's the No.65R that has the pressed steel table. The No.61R still has the one piece yoke and table.

    Refer page 36/37 of the 1929 Buffalo Forge cattledog: http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/129/4907.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vann View Post
    I'll photograph and measure the column and the foot, in the next day or two.
    Appreciate it

    Edit: I just found quite good picture of a complete one, which the poster believes to have been bought by the 'current' owner's grandfather, and so it's probably original.

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