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8th September 2016, 05:33 AM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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Buffalo Forge Post Drill
Well, I found a post drill at a reasonable price, and it's on it's way. To be honest, I don't know enough to know if it's complete and working or not, but I'm hoping there's not too much wrong with it.
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8th September 2016, 10:58 AM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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Is there any more coming or is that all? Seems to be a few part missing
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8th September 2016, 08:13 PM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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Doesn't seem to have the table and post that it attaches to in the early photos.
Though it could be in the pile.
See others here: Photo Index - Buffalo Forge Co. - Post Drill | VintageMachinery.org
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8th September 2016, 10:59 PM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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Hope they turn up, they would make it a good usable item,
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9th September 2016, 12:35 AM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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There is a couple of post drill enthusiasts on here maybe someone maybe able to help out. As already stated, the three things I noticed was the post, table and post support.
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9th September 2016, 02:35 AM #8SENIOR MEMBER
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The table and post with support are indeed missing. I've emailed the seller including a picture in the hope that they're lying around there somewhere. There's an old estate nearby which has a museum and the old tool section is run by the vintage tractor club. They might have some parts or might let me borrow the table and support to get new ones cast, although I suspect that'll not be cheap, and I'm not about to set up a forge at this stage. I'll start keeping an eye out for parts on eBay too. If the worst comes to the worst I can use a table from any old drill press until I get the correct ones.
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9th September 2016, 09:50 PM #9
Where are you located?
Looking at the photos what you have looks complete and has none of the usual damage.
Unfortunately someone has separated the post/pillar from it and the attached parts. These will include the post, the yolk & table, along with the foot bracket for mounting the post.
Myself and Vann are probably the biggest drill nuts on here. I'm going to be making some parts for his drills shortly and we both have restored some pretty poor candidates.
Any questions, happy to help as much as possible.
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10th September 2016, 12:07 AM #10SENIOR MEMBER
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I'm in South Africa, which makes swapping or buying parts expensive.
It looks to be in pretty good condition to me - I suspect that somewhere along the way the post was removed to make it easier to transport or store and it's lying somewhere and no-one knows what it's off. I haven't heard back from the seller yet, and would be surprised if he has the missing bits.
What parts are you going to be making? Even though shipping isn't cheap, it may well be the quickest way to get this one back into shape.
Thanks a million, always appreciate the helpfulness of everyone here
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11th September 2016, 06:33 PM #11
Hi Colin.
That looks like a Buffalo Forge No.61, which is almost identical to my Canadian Blower & Forge No.61 (Canadian Blower & Forge was set up as the Canadian division of Buffalo Forge).
Post Drill - Canadian Blower & Forge No.61
The main difference being Buffalo had five spoke flywheels, versus 4 spoke on the Canadian models. I think there are also differences in the coupler (between feed-screw and spindle). And Buffalo painted theirs black (not grey).
Yours looks very complete at the top end, and should make a good working post drill. Unfortunately, as others have said, you're missing the bottom end (as is mine). A weak point on the No.61 is the mainframe casting which tends to get broken (behind where the flywheel cog and crank cogs mesh). Yours looks to be unbroken. Good find.
DSEL is making me some shafts for crank handles, as several of my post drills have missing or damaged crank arms/handles. Again, yours appear to be complete.
I can measure up the column/pillar for my No.61 if you want, and I think I have a foot somewhere (for measuring, not selling ). But I'm missing the table. From memory, mine has a single piece table, but yours should have a separate support yoke and pivoting table (another difference between the two divisions - but only for the No.61).
I have used mine to drill holes with Forstner bits. It works well. The revs are a bit low for twist bits.
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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Yes, it's a No. 61R (I'm not sure if the R makes a difference or not). I can't see any cracks or damage to the castings, and I'm pretty happy with my purchase, even though it's not 100% complete. The seller has come back to me to say that they sell the items as they get them and that's all there was. So, somewhere in a shed, is the rest of it, and no-one has a clue what it's for.
I'd appreciate the measurements of the column and the foot, if you get a chance.
I've got a piece of very old sneezewood fence post that I'd like to mount it on. At this stage, I'm planning to clean it up a bit and lubricate it, but not do a full restore, as I quite like the 'used' look.
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12th September 2016, 09:18 AM #13
The No.61R is an updated No.61.
Again going from memory, CB&F updated their No.61 either late 1910s or 1920s. In the case of CB&F they went away from their one-piece bracket and table (which I'm not sure Buffalo ever used) to a seperate cast table support yoke and a pressed steel table.
Don't you just hate the thought
I'll photograph and measure the column and the foot, in the next day or two.
Cheers, VannGatherer of rustyplanestools...
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12th September 2016, 11:42 AM #14
Okay, so maybe my memory doesn't serve me so well. It's the No.65R that has the pressed steel table. The No.61R still has the one piece yoke and table.
Refer page 36/37 of the 1929 Buffalo Forge cattledog: http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/129/4907.pdf
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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12th September 2016, 08:47 PM #15SENIOR MEMBER
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Appreciate it
Edit: I just found quite good picture of a complete one, which the poster believes to have been bought by the 'current' owner's grandfather, and so it's probably original.
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