Thread: The Great second coming of Wall of saw’s.

I’m busy, go away,
I have a festive season too prepare for, what you guys think your The three wise dude’s or something.




I try an get some more information later.
Cheers Matt.

Matt

Thank you for interrupting your busy festive schedule to remove one medallion screw and to take a close up of the backsaw stamp.

So, the rip saw looks to be a Robert Sorby as the kangaroo motif was one of their logos and many of that brand found their way to Oz. The other interesting aspect is the progressive teeth at the toe. They look as though they could be around 6 or 7ppi which is quite a contrast to the 3½ppi on the main teeth. I don't recall seeing that much of a difference before. That is assuming I have got the tooth count correctly. That saw could be around 1900. It comes from the era when the handle was a lump of wood tacked on the the end of the saw plate rather than "let in."

I had to go to Simon Barley's book for the Blythe backsaw, but the available information was sketchy. There were three names, Henry, Samuel and George Blythe listed all operating from separate addresses in London. It is not known their relationship, but they were all in the Fulham/Chelsea area so very likely there was some family connection. None of them are listed as operating after 1892. Barley's book depicted three stamps. One, dated c1860, is identical to your saw. It apparently measures 18mm across if you care to check.

Ok. Back to the stirring of puddings, glazing of hams and chimney sweeping to assist the bringer of presents, although I have seen on SBS that he may be using Australia Post!

Regards
Paul

Matt, you are a gem. Thanks.

Paul, if you get a chance, can you look up Abraham Ashton? I have just reconditioned one of his (their?) saws. It has the tooth logo stamped on the back. Unusually(?) it has steel screws (glover style) and while the handle is some lovely old beech, it is rather clunky in shape. Thanks.

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MA

Simon Barley listed Ashton in Sheffield 1888-1893 and again 1895-1951. He has a stamp identical to your saw including that toothy thing with "sharp" to the RHS and dated c 1930. That was the latest of eleven stamps pictured. No other information.

Regards
Paul

Edit: Not sure about the steel screws. The only explanation that occurs to me is if it is slightly later date, perhaps during the WW2 years, when brass would have only been available for the war effort. That was certainly the case in the USA and very likely similar in the UK.

After a slightly rude interruption, earlier today

The Second Great Wall of saw is nearing completion, well for now that is.

Tho if anyone knows we’re I’ve put my jewellers saws, I’m all hears [emoji849][emoji849].

So the Yellow pearl is a Robert Sorby, there’s not anything I can add that Paul hasn’t, except I’m a little kean too give it a clean, an re pair the broken lower horn.
But it will have too wait [emoji3064][emoji3064][emoji3064] it’s turn in my ever increasing thingys too do list.

Thanks Paul.

Cheers Matt.

Matt

That is exactly how a well decorated wall should look. I like the mitre box and saw filing clamp arrangements. All in all, quite impressive. There are of course many questions regarding each one, but in your own time.

However, one that is still intriguing me: The tooth count on the "yellow" Sorby and the difference toe to heel?

Regards
Paul

Originally Posted by Bushmiller

Matt

That is exactly how a well decorated wall should look. I like the mitre box and saw filing clamp arrangements. All in all, quite impressive. There are of course many questions regarding each one, but in your own time.

However, one that is still intriguing me: The tooth count on the "yellow" Sorby and the difference toe to heel?

Regards
Paul

Paul ,
On the tooth count on the Yellow Sorby(i want too scrub the yellow before the name sticks for ever [emoji849])

We have 5 teeth at the toe 4 just of center (towards the toe, an 3 at the heel.



Cheers Matt.

Thanks Matt

The original pic was a little deceptive. A difference of 1½ ppi is normal.

Regards
Paul

I need to have a much closer look at mine now.

Originally Posted by Mountain Ash

I need to have a much closer look at mine now.

Yes,

Could you drop everything an do it now please [emoji849].

Cheers Matt.

Done [emoji1] Mine don't have progressive pitch. Didn't measure tpi/ppi though, had to get the lawns mown.

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Originally Posted by auscab

You did too Paul . I missed that. A petition it may have to be

I have a couple of large English rip and cross cut that look something like that I think . They are in a box and I haven't looked at them for a while. One is a Buck . I forget what the other is. I almost had a tenon saw some years back with a handle like Matts saw on the wall that would have been a good match but I let it go.

Rob

Rob,

Some more shots of the Blythe,
I did have a look on Aunty all knowing Google, I saw some comments on Backsaw net suggesting it’s from around 1840/ 1860 from memory so possibly the oldest saw I have.

I’ve given a pic of the TPI but for a saw well over 150 years old, not sure it’s kept it’s Tooth spacing from when it left it’s little factory in London all those years ago.
One point to note it’s pretty heavy with its steel folded back,
Also the back is not straight across the top, this may be from the manufacturer process.
I think Paul add some info on it as well.







Cheers Matt.

Originally Posted by Simplicity

Rob,

Some more shots of the Blythe,
I did have a look on Aunty all knowing Google, I saw some comments on Backsaw net suggesting it’s from around 1840/ 1860 from memory so possibly the oldest saw I have.

I’ve given a pic of the TPI but for a saw well over 150 years old, not sure it’s kept it’s Tooth spacing from when it left it’s little factory in London all those years ago.
One point to note it’s pretty heavy with its steel folded back,
Also the back is not straight across the top, this may be from the manufacturer process.
I think Paul add some info on it as well.
Cheers Matt.

Thanks Matt . Its a nice old saw for sure. A bit of a rare sight.