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    Like DSEL74, I have been severly bitten by the drill press bug (drilli pressi bugitus) and have just won this machine.

    HDDP2.jpgHDDP1.jpgHDDP3.jpg

    Anybody recognise it? Brand? Model? The seller seemed to think it might be English, but I'm not sure if that's the case, or just based on the English plug on the power cord.

    I haven't picked it up yet.

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    I'm such a corruptor/enabler!

    There looks to be some writing on the lever handle and possibly the casting just above the ground section of the pillar. When are you picking it up? looking forward to more close up photos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSEL74 View Post
    When are you picking it up?
    Possibly tomorrow, probably Sunday.

    The seller sent me some more info - but mostly a red herring I suspect:

    Venhill.JPG This, he suggested, might be the maker (yeah, maybe not)

    Gryphon Brook.JPGThis, I believe, say "Gryphon Brook Motors Limited, Huddersfield". A quick google says Gryphon supplied motors for Meddings and/or Fobco drill presses. But all the examples I could find were more modern in shape.

    So I guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow/Sunday to find out more.

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    I doubt the guy actually knows much about the drill at all.

    There is some thing maybe another label on the side of the pulley cover, there is also writing on the face of the switch box.

    I was wrong in my email, having looked again at the photos the lever moves the motor in and out so you can tension the belts. I think this drill with the possible exception of a replacement motor is all original and would be one of the first drill presses in design.
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    That even shows a NZ supplier and looks pretty close. Feb 1939

    Not only do you get a complete and working drill for cheap you get the full info on it in one source you lucky bugger! Here I am scouring the globe for any info on RSB!!
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    I, JOSEPH CASH, Managing Director of The Denbigh Engineering Company
    Limited, of Horseley Heath, Tipton, in the County of Staftord, England, a British subject


    You can even post this one here and bring the number up from 0 listed.
    http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex...?id=3025&tab=2



    Makers The Denbigh
    Motor is Wilbert Motor engineering
    Original 440v motor using 3 phase power see pictures

    This would also explain the motor.


    Bench pillar drill by" Denbigh".This is an old unit which is made mainly of cast iron and is very robust.Drive motor is 1/2 hp single phase and the drill has four speeds via a vee belt and cone pullies.Drill stands around 36" high.Removable Chuck(with key) has 1/2" capacity and no 1 morse taper.Would suit a model engineer like myself(now retired)

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    Looks like factory color was grey, heres another one.





    Here is a site close to home for you that may be of interest:
    http://www.nzvtcc.org.nz/tools4.htm
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    Do I detect a hint of frustration in your post, Dale?
    I found the Denbigh by looking at images of pillar drills with Brook Gryphon motors.
    Apparently, there are pictures of the Denbigh in McPherson Catalogues.
    Now if your RSB had a motor ...
    Maybe you need to find a Miller & Co Machinery catalogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiroller View Post
    Do I detect a hint of frustration in your post, Dale?
    I found the Denbigh by looking at images of pillar drills with Brook Gryphon motors.
    Apparently, there are pictures of the Denbigh in McPherson Catalogues.
    Now if your RSB had a motor ...
    Maybe you need to find a Miller & Co Machinery catalogue.

    So far I have found 3 other RSB machines in the world, 2x Small lathes and one other drill press of a different design. All of these people thought they had the only RSB machine in existence, as none had been able to find any info. So I guess I have done better than them by at least finding these people but man info is light on the ground.

    Love to get my hands on some Miller & Co Machinery catalogues, got any to spare???
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    You guys are fantastic. Thanks for identifying the drill press. I was headed in the wrong direction, looking at drill presses by Meddings, and Elliot, and Progress, and Kerry, and Fobco... (you get the picture).

    I'll post pictures when I get it home.

    Cheers, Vann.
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    Here's my Denbigh (picked it up Wednesday)

    LHS801.jpg RHS801.jpg FCT801.jpg Dammit! The table clamp is broken and strapped

    Gryp1.jpgGryp2.jpg Motor plate - 1/4 horse.

    FinneyML.jpg Agents plate.

    It appears this one wasn't sold new in New Zealand. The agent's plate reads: A. Finney & Co. Engineers, Navigation St, Birmingham, 5.

    DencolML.jpg DenheadML.jpg

    I think it's probably a more recent machine: the cowl at the top is a more modern design than the one in the 1939 advert, and there are a number of allen set screws and bolts. This press was a new design in 1939 and I believe the company went out of business in 1970.

    Apart from the break in the table clamp, it's in very good condition, with no play in the spindle, and it runs very quietly.

    It's finished in a hammer blue - due to some paint overlap on the agents plate it must have been repainted at some point. I'll have to see if the broken table clamp is going to be a problem (and research a repair method if it is) before deciding on a repaint (in orginal grey (or as near as I can get).

    Meanwhile, I now have a useable drill press

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    Shame about the table clamp (

    Have you tried googling the patent number on the lever???
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