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5th July 2021, 09:14 AM #1Member
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DRIVER LINE GEARED MITRE GUAGE...removing gear/spindle.
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I've had this one sitting in waiting for years. I suddenly needed it so gave it a functional spruce up. Problem is that the gear is sitting out of position and only engaging about 1/3 of its face width. The spring that positions the gear is there ok, but maybe a spacer or indexing part is missing. For a quick fix I slid a plastic spacer under the gear knob.
So does anyone know how to remove the mitre gear or spindle assembly? Anyone got an exploded view?
EDIT..As I'm writing, the epiphany occurs that the gear spindle could just be screwed into the 3/4x1/4 slider. So off I go to look, hopefully humbled...No, sorry, that was stupid. So the question remains, how to get the gear assy apart. Is the bush at the centre just pressed in...?
Separate interesting thing...does anyone have pics of the saw stop system that screws to the corners of the aluminum casting?
More info if we need to identify it carefully...
Some old American machinery had these mitre guages, Walker Turner for example. Or were WT the manufacturer? Old style branding, marketing is a mystery...
Cast on the aluminum...
THE DRIVER LINE
PLAINFIELD N.J. U.S.A.
GEARED SELF INDEXING
MITRE GUAGE
there might be a patent number, can't easily read it.
Cheers for any help,
Gregg.
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5th July 2021, 10:45 AM #2
There are quite a few images on the net showing Walker Turner Driver line mitre gauge.
Here is one that may help:
Tom
Vintage Walker Turner "The Driver Line" Geared Self Indexing Miter Gage | #1823213039.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
https://thevillagewoodworker.blogspot.com/
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5th July 2021, 11:30 AM #3Member
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Thanks Tom,
I've seen a couple of photos on auction sites. I suppose I could ask a seller. Chances are good that someone on the forum here, or a vintage forum, has fiddled with one. Meantime it needs to earn its keep so I have a bit of plastic jammed under there.
Gregg.
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Hi Gregg,
I found this patent that might help you.
https://patentimages.storage.googlea.../US2010882.pdf
Cheers,
Geoff.
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6th July 2021, 12:13 PM #5Senior Member
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If what's been offered so far doesn't help, go here and search, or ask if you don't find answers: Old Woodworking Machines - Old Woodworking Machines
You can also peruse the literature at Vintage Machinery, which is linked from the top right corner on any of the pages there (I tried posting a direct link, but the software doesn't seem to want to let me post two links in one message).
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Thanks for the leads chaps..
I notice in the patent drawing that the mitre gear and sleeve are integral (15). In my one the gear is aluminum and the sleeve looks steel. I'm assuming that my sleeve will have a pressed fit into the gear below and the gear knob (16) above. I was looking for some kind of pin or key like (17) but I didn't see it yet. Pin or no I may have to try just tapping the sleeve out...
I was surprised that my mitre gear was aluminum, I thought it would be brass, general knowledge, so I thought, having it that aluminum and brass wear well together
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Edit:...To help minimize any confusion I'm gonna edit the text body below...I misread the drawing and don't want to hand off that misperception.
The mystery was solved. First, refering to that patent dwg... Given that mine has a separate steel sleeve rather than integral sleeve/gear, my guess is that mine was a later version or that the dwg doesn't show the item as produced.
I tapped the sleeve/gear assy out of the gear knob. It was immediately clear that it had been held in with a little rust, and it's designed to be a sweet sliding fit (apologies to the machinists). The other fact suddenly obvious was that the assy stack order was incorrect. Photo below shows that. The spacer washer was sitting between the detent groove and its nipple. It should have been sitting just under the gear knob (16)..Happy days, I had feared that the detent system was worn or missing...
Again, the photo below shows the spacer washer in the wrong place...it should be sitting just under the gear knob.
When the assy is in serviceable condition it comes apart easily once the lock knob (19) is removed, and I think someone had assembled the parts wrong. Or maybe got sick of bumping into the detents
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Yet to try to zero the protractor.
For the saw stops I think I may enlarge the holes to take 10mm rod and just improvise something.
Thanks again for the help.
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