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29th June 2020, 11:47 AM #1New Member
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Hand plane identification
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A friend of mine gave me this plane and I have been cleaning it up.
Can anyone identify the stamp on the blade, and which plane this is. By the mouth opening it looks like a scrub plane but it might just be wear and tear.
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29th June 2020, 10:11 PM #2
Way too long for a scrub. Its a jointer. The blade holding setup is something I have not seen before so can we have some more pics of that please. The general shape of the thing and the blade logo kind of has a German look.
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29th June 2020, 10:25 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Mr C. I have 2 Madra planes (smoother and rebate/rabbet) that have the groove/dado ploughed into the side like yours. My smoother has a "Bohler" blade but the metal button on the top of yours looks a lot like the button at the rear end of my smoother. Not sure where they were made John but I think they are European.
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1st July 2020, 03:14 AM #4New Member
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More pictures
You can see that there is a bolt going thru the top but it doesn't come out the sole. I f you look closley at the side and back pictures of the sole you can see where it was added . They used some kind of wavy looking ribs going cross ways and from the back it looks ribbed going the long ways also.the wedge has an adjustable plate on it . I guess you would call it the wedge bar is riveted on.
Thanks everyone for the insight.
bolt.jpgside of sole.jpgbackside of sole.jpgwedge.jpgwwedge bar.jpg
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1st July 2020, 11:30 PM #5
Thanks for the extra pictures. As I said I have not seen a wedge fixing like that but that general style of plane is still being made in Europe even today. For some reason wood planes have remained popular there and are still production made. The sole is harder wood. Hornbeam likely. The wavey interface gives more glue area.
The metal button on top is the strike button so you can hit it to release the wedge.
ECE Jointer Plane | Hand Planes
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John
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2nd July 2020, 02:13 AM #6Senior Member
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I have an old Ulmia 600mm Jointer. Current catalogue lists white beech sole for this model.
The wedge bar (fulcrum) is different to what you have, so I initially thought as John suggests, it is possibly an EC Emmerich.
I have attached a pic of the Ulmia crest/logo, the cutting iron logo is same but eroded - not pic worthy, it looks like a cathedral . Again, different from your pic. So an Ulmia it ain't. Doesn't resemble a Henry Boker either.
ECE soles are typically square toothed rather than the wavy cut fit you show however. They have a 'castellated glue joint sole to body insures no twist, no warp. Made from Hornbeam, or self-lubricating Lignum Vitae'. The ECE catalogue pic for their 600mm Try-plane is indistinct, but it looks like it could be the exception, and wave cut. The Wedge Support 'ensures chatter-free cutting; the direct result of a steel fulcrum that does not pierce the pane body and weaken it'. Different to what you have.
Ulmia body/sole has 'strong, deep, and pointed inclined toothing, glue-on plane sole in white-beech or lignum vitae'. And the wedge support is different to the ECE.
Your plane has a fulcrum that pierces the body, unlike the ECE Try Plane/jointer, and the lateral adjuster is quite different to any of the ECE or Ulmias as far as I can tell.
Pic of two Ulmia, white beech sole, and hornbeam sole, both wavy sole/body fits.
Pic of three ECE, lignum Vitae and hornbeam square ribbed (castellated) sole/body fits.
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2nd July 2020, 03:18 AM #7New Member
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Thanks for all of the information. I would still like to figure out the manufacturer and time frame of construction.
There is a plane in the center bottom and it looks like letters S on the left and AER on the right.
This stamp on the blade is about as close as I can get but time has been hard on it.wood plane stamp.jpg
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2nd July 2020, 04:24 PM #8New Member
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2nd July 2020, 05:55 PM #9
Hi Mr C
I have been taking a look at what I could find on German/European wooden planes as I cant claim any in depth knowledge on them. I was surprised at how many ways they have of holding the blade in. They look to have kept developing wood planes while we forgot about them when Stanley came along.
Holzbearbeitung mit Handwerkzeugen (Inhalt)/Woodworking with Hand Tools (Sitemap).
I have only had a brief look around this site but pretty soon found a whole new world of planes. May be a start for your search.
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John
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3rd July 2020, 12:12 PM #10Intermediate Member
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Esslinger & Abt, German manufacturers, 1952 advert shows your logo (see Wolfgang Jordan's website for more data on the company, started 1845, becoming Esslinger & Abt in 1875 )
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3rd July 2020, 02:35 PM #11
That looks like the one. There is so much interesting stuff on that site. Will keep me reading for a while. I could spot a German plane but had so far never been aware of the variety out there.
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John
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4th July 2020, 02:24 AM #12New Member
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8th July 2020, 01:33 PM #13New Member
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I would like to thank everyone for the input. It turns out it is a Rauhbank jointer plane made in Germany around 1952.
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