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Thread: Rimers and Rinders ????
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22nd May 2019, 10:51 AM #1
Rimers and Rinders ????
OK... While researching info on a FW Reynolds Imperial Mortiser that I have just purchased.....It says it came with Augers and Rimers... In the Mathieson Catalog there are tools called Rinders that look the same.. Is there a difference between the two or is one a Scottish term and the other English. In any case what were they used for?
Mathieson Square Rinder.jpg
I am thinking that on a drilling machine that there would have been either a round shaft or the standard Taper shaft the they used on the chisels.
Appreciate any thoughts on this.
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22nd May 2019, 11:28 AM #2
I know that ladder rungs used to be called rimes and the tool used to make 'em, a rimer. Can't see how that'd be applied to a mortiser though!
How old is the mortiser? I believe the early ones were basically just a plunge device, acting like a guillotine with interchangeable bits. In use, a hand auger was plugged into the working end to drill the hole, then swapped out for a chisel to square it. Purely as a guess, perhaps your rimer/rinder was a type of file/rasp for clean up?
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22nd May 2019, 11:52 AM #3
The Mortiser is (I think) Around 1875 and yes it has chisels that fit into a tapered socket. The drilling attachment on this model is separate to the Chisel part. On some models you can set them up for cutting the Tennons in the hubs and Rims of wooden wheels... Just had a thought Maybe that's what a Rimer is.... for doing Rims of wheels. I think they were a tapered hole. I guess the Rungs on a ladder are a similar joint.
I have a thread going in the antique machine area if you are interested. FW Reynolds Mortiser.
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Hi Gaza,
In R. A. Salaman's book, Directory of Woodworking Tools, page 83, he says "Bit, Rimer (Reamer, Rymer, Rhymer, Rinder or Roomer Bit) A tapering blade which is either square, half round, half round and hollow, or five to eight sided. The end is pointed and used for enlarging existing holes."
My photo is of reamers to fit a brace which I think your catalogue photo is also. My central three are half round and the outer two are square, the middle one branded Mathieson.
In many cases various manufacturers used different terms to describe the same product.
Cheers,
Geoff.
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23rd May 2019, 11:45 AM #5
Thanks Geoff...... That clears that up....... I am going to have to invest in that book some time..... Just wondering if anyone has ever seen one with either a round shaft or with a Morse taper shaft. The FW Reynolds mortising machine seems to have a Morse taper in the drilling attachment. I managed to score a couple of Augers that have a MT2 These are the only ones I have ever seen though.
Auger Bits MT2 001-1.jpg
Gaza