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    Default Saw Set identification

    I seem to have fallen into collecting saw setters.
    Originally I was just looking for one to start sharpening my lonely tenon saw.
    But... fate intervened.
    I've ended up with four similar pieces. Morrill No 1 of different age and one unknown.
    The unknown has no name I can find but a clear makers mark. (There may have been, but indecipherable now).
    Looks like two pelican heads with "HB" between.
    Any help or direction to find out?
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    That design was used by a few companies and even Marpels did one. Morrill is the most common and perhaps the patent holder. I did a quick google but found nothing on the 2 pelican mark either. My guess its an American brand as I have never seen it on old British tools. I picked up one of those some years back (forget the name but made in New York) and never really got to grips with it. I was shown how to use the Eclipse style set but have not yet figured out the finer points of the Morrill design.
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    Thanks.
    I've been looking for the Eclipse style. Particularly the ones for different tpi range, red, green, and blue?
    I've come across different ones but in very poor to unusable condition.
    I've still had no luck with brand logo, not that it's important. I'll clean these up and use them for display/curiosity pieces.
    Thanks.

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    The two pelican mark is a Henry Boker stamp I’m certain, I’ve got a few tools of mine and the old man’s with it. German brand if I remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riverbuilder View Post
    The two pelican mark is a Henry Boker stamp I’m certain, I’ve got a few tools of mine and the old man’s with it. German brand if I remember.
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    Henry Boker originated in Germany, but I believe the American connection, which was a branch of the family, operated separately. They manufactured their own Western style saws (the German branch would have used frame saws) so they may well have had an associated range of saw equipment and were large enough to have their own mark even though they did not manufacture it themselves. Quite a few companies in fact did this including the large hardware chains. However, my comment needs verification.

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    I've googled the Henry Boker idea. Cannot find anything close to the double pelican mark.
    Lots of pages of makers marks.
    Tried different search strings but no joy.
    Thanks anyway.

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    Unfortunately both my roll cab toolboxes are empty and packed into plastic storage crates and stacked 6 high in the garage of our temporary house so I can’t go and find the combination square that I’m certain has the double pelican mark. I’ll get to it one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riverbuilder View Post
    Unfortunately both my roll cab toolboxes are empty and packed into plastic storage crates and stacked 6 high in the garage of our temporary house so I can’t go and find the combination square that I’m certain has the double pelican mark. I’ll get to it one day.
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    I don't doubt it for a moment (the pelicans, not that you will get to it . This is a try square on US Ebay at the moment

    Henry Boker try square.jpg

    However, this is the logo that is seen on many of their tools. A medallion on one of their handsaws in this instance.

    Henry Boker saw medallion logo.jpg

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    WOW. I had seen the one of the medallion in my searching. But not the other.
    Lyle

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    Hi Lyle,

    I don't think the trade mark image is a Henry Boker one, they used a Chestnut tree as their emblem.

    If you go to 'The Saw Set Collector's Resource' you will find a lot of info about all sort of saw sets.

    Graham.

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    The tree mark was a symbol of quality as I understand from my searches.

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    From Wolfgang Jordan's web site
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    That is certainly the symbol. I can't find anything else around it as per your photos.
    Maybe a hint/suggestion below, but nothing I can be sure of.
    Thanks for that.
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    Lyle

    Returning to your Morrill saw set for a moment:

    Morrill No.1.jpg

    I was trying to identify a saw set of mine, in which endeavour I failed miserably. However I turned up these from a 1914 catalogue for your plier set.

    Morrill No1 old style.jpgMorrill No.1 saw set 1914.jpg

    This one is from 1899

    Morrills saw sets.jpg

    It looks as the they continued with the two No.1 models alongside each other. There was a price difference, but they also say in their blurb that as it was the first model they retained it for sentimental reasons. I have seen what appears to be similar sets under the name E.C. Stearns of New York, but I suspect they were made by Morrill.

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    If you haven't yet found this site, you might fossick about a bit here: The Saw Set Collector's Resource

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