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2nd June 2014, 08:23 AM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Spoke shave?
Bought this spoke shave recently. Cleaned it up, it looks like it is complete.
What have I got and how do I use it.
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2nd June 2014, 09:53 AM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Essentially with pullstrokes mostly, you can do dramatic corner round-overs.
Shaving buggy and cart spokes from square stock. In my Kitchen Stick Project,
I did some 70 spoon handles with a pair of SS, one set finely to kiss off the ridges
left by the other one which was set for a coarser and more aggressive cut.
To get the handle more or less round from 7/8" (22mm?) stock, I counted = about 30 cuts per corner. Four corners and 35cm lengths was a run of about 2km. The SS would sing/hiss in the wood, tuneups were done at 28 degrees on a cheap 4K waterstone and (sometimes) honed whith chrome green on a flat card.
Really old style, you have to set the depth of cut with gentle hammer-taps!
If you mess that up, you have to reseat the blade and start all over. I bought a Stanley 64(?) which is now a crap-shave hanging on the wall. Me and hammertap adjustments are crazy.
Mine two Samona SS have set screw adjustments like yours. I think that they are an absolute delight to work with. A curled 90cm shaving a little thicker than a hair is a sight to behold.
Have some fun. Do some experiments.
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2nd June 2014, 10:27 AM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks for the quick reply.
The handle set up seems to indicate a push action.
The thumb pad positions seem to indicte that.
The base where the blade protrudes through the throat is flat across - handle to handle.
But is curved front to back.
So do I have to roll the wrists to carry out the cutting.
Like a scooping action??
I'll google some more.
thanks.
Lyle.
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2nd June 2014, 10:33 AM #4GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks for the quick reply.
The handle set up seems to indicate a push action.
The thumb pad positions seem to indicte that.
The base where the blade protrudes through the throat is flat across - handle to handle.
But is curved front to back.
So do I have to roll the wrists to carry out the cutting.
Like a scooping action??
I'll google some more.
Seems my tool is a curved sole spoke shave.
Now to learn how to use it.
thanks.
Lyle.
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2nd June 2014, 12:43 PM #5
Lyle,
Looks like a Stanley 151. It can be pushed or pulled. The tool is used for shapeing wood. Used in the old days to make wood wheel spokes as well as a lot of other things. Does a similar job ot a drawknife but with more control. Your rounded sole one is good for concave curves. Look around for a flat sole shave as it is god to have both. There are a range of shaped shaves for different tasks but most general work can be done with a flat and a round.
Regards
John
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2nd June 2014, 01:35 PM #6GOLD MEMBER
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Fantastic. Thanks Orraloon.
I thought that it was a straight cut SS for spokes & spoons, etc.
Throughout my Kitchen Stick Project, working with the SS was always a treat.
A draw knife can't get you as far into a chair seat, etc as a SS with a sweep.
What are they really called? Inshaves?
Magard Log Home Building Tools makes straight ones, 4 dozen at a time for industry.
DK's are very common here for stripping logs for home building.
If you have $15 megs for a house, I can put you onto the right guys!
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3rd June 2014, 01:13 PM #7
Those curved spokeshaves can be a #%<* to use. I bought one as an apprentice (thinking it would be more versatile) and never used it. Three years ago a friend gave me a flat base one - much easier to master .
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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3rd June 2014, 03:24 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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Lyle's SS looks like a straight-cut tool to me. As I said, wonderful to pull spokes from square stock. You have to hear them sing in the wood. Hissing sound, almost musical. It goes away as the edge gets blunted from wear.
Inshaves are no biggie to sharpen. = you need a long, flat stick and a bolt+wingnut to get the leverage and angle correct. Just don't expect a carving sharp edge in 20 seconds.
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6th June 2014, 08:18 AM #9
A draw knife can't get you as far into a chair seat, etc as a SS with a sweep.
What are they really called? Inshaves?
Hi all,
An inshave or Scorp is a curved version of a drawknife.
A travisher is more like a spoke shave.
If you see an old wooden shave you can see the similarity.
I've always pushed a spoke shave.
Some of the straight handled ones could easily be used as push or pull.
The meanest drawknive I've seen was a 12 inch planer blade with short plastic handled screwdrivers welded on as handles!
H.Jimcracks for the rich and/or wealthy. (aka GKB '88)
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Really serious draw knives are used in the log home building industry.
Magard Log Home Building Specialty Tools builds them from bar stock, 48 at a time.
Anything smaller with a sweep could be a rough-out tool for a chair.
I agree, a spoke shave is a little too small for a chair seat.
Inspiration!
Why not use a spoke shave as a spoke shave?
I have made some replacement spokes for horse-buggy things.
Also a set (24?) for a "goat cart".
Not my idea but thats what they wanted.
After rounding off the corners of 70+ spoon handles x 14" long,
I have a dang good idea how they work (pull strokes) and how to keep them
carving sharp for hardwoods.
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