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23rd January 2022, 01:28 PM #1New Member
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Stanley Hand Planes _Specifications
Does anyone know where I can find specific details about Stanley Planes? In particular, the size blade and chipper for the various models and the type frog, knob and tote. I would like to know the exact specification for the original models produced so I can find / buy parts for the planes I buy or presently own. It would be nice to know that the plane you want to buy has the proper parts or have they been substituted. For example, I purchase three Stanely No 27 Transition Planes on eBay and when I received them two of the planes had the same size blade but different lever caps. The third had a totally different size blade (length) and chipper.
I've been researching the internet but have not found anything. You would think that the Stanley Website would have these details.
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23rd January 2022, 01:53 PM #2
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23rd January 2022, 02:10 PM #3
Patrick Leach's Blood And Gore and Hans Brunner's Stanley Planes By Numbers give you general histories of their major models. Regarding specs; very hit and miss. Stanley in the US kept improving their Bailey range of bench planes with little changes up until 1933; these are referred to as "types". At type 16 they had reached the zenith and from then on their changes reflected their attempts to lower manufacturing costs. But there are no fixed specs between types; although their model year would change they would also prudently use up old stock first; as an example my Type 11 number 5 has a type 10 blade in it which allows me to date it bang on at 1911... assuming that a previous owner hadn't swapped the blade around! I have a No. 3 "Frankenplane" that is a mixture of bits from the 1920's up to 1933; I don't care as it looks fine and performs great. For a Bailey bench plane flowchart and description of each change look up "Hyperkitten Stanley Plane Dating". There used to be an even better website called Rexmill but unfortunately it was removed/closed about three years ago.
But the above is by-the by as it only applies to US and Canadian made planes. Stanley UK didn't start production until 1937 and they would make minor changes at the drop of a hat. The only noteworthy changes happened in the early 80's when they changed to Metric threads and plastic handles. Australian Stanleys are even harder to "type"; they bought out Titan and Turner and rebadged some of their range which is why you can find Aus Stanley bench planes with aluminium frogs; a feature carried over from Turner but not adopted in either the US or UK.Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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24th January 2022, 03:37 AM #4New Member
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Thanks for reference to this site. I did visit before but gives only general overview of each plane. I'm looking for specific details such as my Stanley / Bailey #27 has a 2 1/8" x 7 1/2' blade with a 2 1/8" x 5 1/4" chipper and the Lever cap is 2 1/8" x 5 3/4" with dimpled design and no name. Without this information, I really don't know if the plane is to the original specs. I don't care if the bits are all original but that they belong to this plane and not swoped from another.
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24th January 2022, 03:42 AM #5New Member
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Thanks for the information. How do you know that your Stanley No 5 type 11 has a type 10 blade? As you state "...assuming that a previous owner hasn't swoped the blade around!." Is there a date on the blabe or some other indication that it is a type 10?
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24th January 2022, 06:35 AM #6
The blade is stamped with the Stanley “T” logo which only lasted for 3 years covering the type 10 and the first year of the type 11 before the “V” logo was adopted. The old Rexmill type study contained photos of these changes which is one reason to mourn its passing.
I did find this site that shows pretty much all the logos although some of the dates may conflict with other sources Stanley Trademark Stamps | Virginia ToolworksNothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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24th January 2022, 06:58 AM #7
What you need is a type study of transitional Stanley planes.
I don’t know that this Australian forum is going to be much help as very few if any transitional Stanley planes were imported here when they were in production.
As an example of a type study look up Bob Kaune’s 1996 work on Bed Rock Planes.
I would suggest you put your question to a local forum or tool collectors club in the US.
Roger Smith wrote a couple of books which may be at a library near you.
’Patented Transitional and Metallic Planes in America’ at least one is online.
I used to have these but moved them on after selling off my collection of Stanley planes in the 1990s.
The US tool collectors will have covered all of the information you need in minute detail, you just need to ferret it out from the internet.
I can’t remember which club would be in your area but there will be one.
I’ve been to a Mid West Tool Collectors swap meet in Springfield Missouri in 1983 and there were thousands of guys there over the 3 day event.
I haven’t kept up with club activity in the US but I’m sure your local one would have member’s near you with the information you need.
H.Jimcracks for the rich and/or wealthy. (aka GKB '88)
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26th January 2022, 12:12 PM #8New Member
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Thanks for you reply
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