Thread: Stenner ABM Table Saw Restoration

Hi Camo You Have done an amazing job. Looks fantastic.

Originally Posted by 2blast67

Hi Camo You Have done an amazing job. Looks fantastic.

Thanks, I must admit, its good to be able to finally use it, the next step is to tackle the mitre. Henry surprised me with this mammoth mitre gauge from a Barker machine:



A beauty!! (The one in front is for scale, the small one is off a modern 12" cabinet saw). I just need to have a stab at milling a dovetail mitre bar, without access to a mill. I will try and tackle it myself, and then pay for it to be done if I fail.

I hope to tackle it soon, but life keeps getting in the way.

Cheers,

Camo

Not sure if saws are she/he or maybe something else, but your restoration is looking fantastic, and sounding good too, love that spin down sound! A Very nice machine. Maybe i should be collecting Stenner stuff instead? Seriously now.. i'm really envious of all of these restorations, i am still yet to restore anything, i have just got the collecting disease real bad, and that's the easy part...well done.

Originally Posted by sion.dovey

Not sure if saws are she/he or maybe something else, but your restoration is looking fantastic, and sounding good too, love that spin down sound! A Very nice machine. Maybe i should be collecting Stenner stuff instead? Seriously now.. i'm really envious of all of these restorations, i am still yet to restore anything, i have just got the collecting disease real bad, and that's the easy part...well done.

Hey Sion,

Thanks for the kind words. Regarding collecting Stenners instead, my advice is no one should collect them,....they are terrible machines......stay away.....there all mine.

You have a great collection, and Sagar made beautiful solid machines.

I know you have posted elsewhere, and I know you said you haven't restored any yet, but I bet the guys would love to see a couple of pictures of a range of some of the machines you have so far (when you get some free time that is).

Cheers,

Camo

Hi Cam,
I emailed you but I remember you said you didn't check it that often.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stenner-18...item27e3b95bd9

A Stenner ABM!
You know you've been looking for a quadrant, well from the pic it would appear that Stenner used an oversized mitre gauge that had locator pins that fit into those holes in your slider that had been filled with brass pins. It looks like the large knob at the back in the slot would fit into the holes and presumably screw down locking the gauge at the position. Intermeadiate positions would be obtained by moving the gauge around the pin in the slot.
The little pin in front and not in the slot looks like a locator pin to keep the gauge locked at 90 at the rear of the table, is there a hole at that point?
I'm not sure what the holes in the main table are about.

Have fun,
Alli

Here's the pic so it doesn't get lost.
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Thanks for that.

The wonders of the Internet ghosts wouldn't let me post a pic for some reason last night and we wouldn't want Cam to feel left out and cheated of his elusive quarry now would we.

Hi Alli, Hiroller,

I am a bit slow in reply, I will blame the long weekend...lol.

I had seen that, and a few guys have PM'ed me about it (which I am very grateful for, I do look for Stenner, but I imagine I likely miss some), in fact someone was looking at it and had asked for some advice, so I was being a bit quiet (didn't want to mess with there negotiations, as it turns out, due to cost they have decided against it).

The saw appears to be in good condition based on pictures (I have seen a few other shots), but some issues do exist, and some parts are not original to the saw the obvious being the overhead guard.

To be honest I originally didn't even look at the mitre, just dismissed it as not original (nothing to reference it off), but looking again and trying to find a match for another pattern making saw, I think it is an original.

Originally Posted by Allison74

mitre gauge that had locator pins that fit into those holes in your slider that had been filled with brass pins. It looks like the large knob at the back in the slot would fit into the holes and presumably screw down locking the gauge at the position. Intermeadiate positions would be obtained by moving the gauge around the pin in the slot.

I don't think the holes in my table with brass pins would be used for the mitre (the geometry matches a fixed point close to the edge of the table, and the brass pin holes line up in an arc around that). The mitre looks like it would pivot 90 degrees both ways, and is locked at the angle with the rear most knob.

Originally Posted by Allison74

The little pin in front and not in the slot looks like a locator pin to keep the gauge locked at 90 at the rear of the table, is there a hole at that point?

Yep, there is a hole in my table that corresponds. The pin simply sits in the mitre bar, and if you want to fix the mitre to prevent it sliding (so you can use the sliding table), you simply bring the mitre back and push the pin into the hole (it doesn't screw in, just a hole matched by the diameter of the pin), the rear knob stops the mitre from pivoting and the mitre bar cannot move back or forth due to the pin)

Originally Posted by Allison74

I'm not sure what the holes in the main table are about.

These holes are not original (based on my saw and another which the owner was nice enough to give me some detailed images, before it was sent to the Congo). I am thinking tapped holes for the base of a power feeder, a few locations, for wider material?



I felt a bit disrespectful towards the Stenner gods...lol. I think I talked the guy who asked for advice (no names obviously) out of purchasing. He does not live in England, and much as I love my saw, I think by the time you add freight to the price they are asking, the price is very high (given the poor market value at the moment for old 3 phase machinery), although I have been known to be a bit cheap, and the aesthetic condition of mine initially wasn't the best...lol.

I asked the sellers about if they would separate the mitre from the saw, but it appears they are not interested.

Cheers,

Camo