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6th November 2012, 10:32 AM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Tough Drill Press Morticer
Hi all,
I have just purchased a Tough drill press with mortice type table (double cross slide) I am hoping to restore it to some of it's former self I also have a Tough lathe that is in pretty good condition but could use a tidy up. Could anyone tell me what the original colour's were for these my lathe is maybe silver hammer tone and of course the red background I have read somewhere in the forum could be Indian Red it seams a bit brighter than that to me. The drill press I think is the same but it is hard to tell at the moment until I clean it up a bit. Any help would be appreciated.
Regards Rod.
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6th November 2012, 08:07 PM #2
Rod I think you are on the right track color wise, silver hammer tone, and fire truck red, I had a friend with one of their lathes that had been burnt out by black saturday, lost everything but we were able to repair the lathe and get it going again for him, they are well build !
Melbourne Matty.
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6th November 2012, 10:44 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Cheers Matty,
Thanks for the reply they certainly are built well any information of this machine would be appreciated any clues on what motor to change it to single phase 240v. It has a GMF duspruf 415v 3 phase motor 1425 RPM.
Regards Rod.
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8th November 2012, 08:55 AM #4GOLD MEMBER
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Some work in progress photo's
Here is the machine disassembled before cleaning to start Refurbishment. I had to pull it apart to get it off the ute on my own. You have to love the solid
2 1/2 post, the machine has only ever run on one speed by the look of the pullies. I am also looking to change to single phase 240v motor any suggestions.
Regards Rod.
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8th November 2012, 12:25 PM #5
Rod, that will all clean up real nice, a motor change will be easy, have a look at the CMG range of motors, a one and a half HP single phase should do the trick and sticking also to around the 1440 RPM range, the hardest part is going to be matching the mounting base the same as the old motor, just to make refitting the new motor easy.
Do you have the chisle mortising attachment that goes below the chuck and attaches to the neck ?
Melbourne Matty.
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8th November 2012, 03:23 PM #6GOLD MEMBER
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Thank's Matty,
No I don't have any chisel's or mounting for the chuck just have what is in photo's, I will need to try to find some suitable. The mount of which I didn't take a photo is a large cast plate with 2x3/4" rod's that slide into the head casting so hopefully mounting a motor shouldn't be to difficult. I will do the lathe at the same time all it need's is a clean and a new coat of paint.
Regards Rod.
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15th November 2012, 08:27 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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I have started to clean up the part's of the press general de-grease wipe down and lubricate to free every thing up, clear the way's on the slides. There are adjustable brass plates on the dovetail slides to take up any slack, the small knob's on lever's are lead casting's. I think I will go at the cast Iron with a cup brush and see how it cleans the surfaces ready to paint any suggestion's welcome please for cleaning up the casting's would be appreciated. I have sprayed hammer tone before on new steel just primed and sprayed with top coat went well and lasted well any thing different with over old paint finish. I also discovered a number on top of the main pedestal stamped 5097.
Regards Rod.
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15th November 2012, 10:46 PM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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Purely a guess, but I wonder if the number might reflect the machine number (my stenner ABM has the number 2010 stamped on a lot of the parts with the plate showing it is machine number 2010), or possibly a part number.
Do you know if the paint is lead based? I don't want to sound like the safety police, but after my experience today using a wire brush, I would just be a bit concerned about spreading lead particles all over your workshop. I have spent some time today using a brass wire brush on the angle grinder to tackle some of the cast iron table, it works well, but I had to do it outside due to how much dust was being created.
I can't wait to see how this machine cleans up.
Cheers,
Camo
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16th November 2012, 08:31 AM #10GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Camo,
I hadn't thought about the chance of lead paint you make a good point, I will need to look into that. I am in the middle of moving house and work so time to work on these project's at the moment is difficult so I am trying to gather the material's I will need for the job. Brass brush for the angle grinder sounds like a good option does it clean well with minimal removal of material hopefully it should get into the grain of the iron to clean it. I will bring the lathe to my new home today this will be the first time in 5 years that I have had a work shop space we have been living and traveling in our van and working care-taking caravan park. We have taken on a new park that comes with a house so I am looking forward to setting up my space as soon as I get the lathe here and I can set out where I need thing's to go. Then I can get into this project properly.
Regards Rod.
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19th November 2012, 08:38 AM #11GOLD MEMBER
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Well here is the lathe finally moved it yesterday it is now under cover until now I have been turning on it outside because we were in our caravan and have just moved to a house again. yes I was using the lathe out in the open covered at night with a tarp. I have started to refurbish the mortiser the logo is a start is'nt it. I could resist trying the colour on the tough wing I will redo it again I didn't wait long enough for the paint to harden before sanding the face and a couple of small pieces came away when I first sanded it .
Regards Rod.
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20th November 2012, 10:19 AM #12GOLD MEMBER
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Quill Mechanism
As you can see the handle arrangement tells the story all three of the thread's are stripped and this has been overcome by welding all three of the handle's together so they work if in a shaky manner. I need to pull the quill spring mechanism off to get the handle boss of to try to repair this problem any suggestion's on how to do this , there is a grub screw on the spring case and the end of the spring is hooked into a slot the cap I haven't removed this yet as I don't want spring and thing's to fly everywhere any advise would be appreciated. Also the hand wheel that work's the vise has a bent end just past the end of the thread right at the base of the hand-wheel could any engineering firm be able to straighten this or do I need someone special.
Regards Rod.
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20th November 2012, 05:56 PM #13GOLD MEMBER
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Cross slide's
I just pulled the cross slides apart ready to clean up,the only problem with this that I can see is the bent hand-wheel shaft. The two hand-wheels operate the clamp for the vice and the lateral movement, the dovetail slide for the centering of the stock under the chisel seems to be operated by hand sliding it into place then locking the slide with what seems a cam lock lever. I bought a new 240v single phase motor a CMG 1 1/2 hp should mount well on the original mounting plate will need to drill a couple of new holes is all.
Regards Rod.
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20th November 2012, 10:41 PM #14
Looking Good Rod.
Just wondering with the motor, does the Aluminum drive pulley go straight on the shaft for the right size as well ?
Melbourne Matty.
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21st November 2012, 03:28 PM #15GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Matty,
I am pleased with the motor it will fit the mounting plate it's base is about the same size as the plate just 2 new screw holes is all that's required.
The 4 step pulley is another matter the shaft on the 3ph motor is I think 5/8" the new motor is 24mm? so I will have to get the old pulley bored to suit or get a new 4 step pulley. Do you have any experience with the quill set up as in pulling it apart, and the chuck appears to be maybe screw on it is not morse taper there are a series of holes around the collar of the chuck like you would use a c spanner possibly any clue's.
Regards Rod.
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