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Thread: A truly beautiful table saw
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19th May 2012, 06:30 PM #16Senior Member
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21st May 2012, 08:18 PM #17
What Bunny said >>>>>>>>
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24th May 2012, 03:34 PM #18
Truly beautiful !!
Jack is outstanding in his field !
(... guess someone let one rip in the workshop again)
Cheers,
Paul
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24th May 2012, 07:08 PM #19
Yeah, that's impressive.
Thanks Jim for the original thread and thanks to Jack for all his work, the links and an insight to another world.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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24th May 2012, 08:16 PM #20
I would give my left one to have that saw in my shed.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I´m not so sure about the universe.
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24th May 2012, 08:21 PM #21
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27th May 2012, 07:32 PM #24Woodswarf
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Nice to look at lovely to hold . . .
However, the ecosystem that produced those two particular lovely birds of paradise and those like them has now been clearfelled and bulldozed. The patterns (and the patternmakers) that helped cast the cylinder blocks of Rolls-Royce Merlin engines, which are examples of what rolled off these high-class machines, have long ago been burnt for firewood (,cremated, or buried). WW2 was really the last hurrah of the British economy producing world-leading technology, in many fields, dribbling off during the 50s and 60s and almost defunct by the 80s. The factories that made them have been razed for McMansions in middle-ring suburbs in Thatcherized industrial towns of the Midlands and North of England. I was born in the same county as Sheffield, and to see the trashed and destroyed working culture and factory districts that produced artisans and craftsmen capable of producing such high examples of their craft, that went under during successions of bad Labour governments, and several really bad Conservative ones, fair makes you weep. Now, instead of pride in their own skill, the companies with any skerrick of that skill remaining jockey and bribe for contracts to outwork for European companies, at lowest-cost, just-adequate quality levels and "functional" design, and no design or work-standard input. Vale Record/Marples. What about Waldown, in Australia? What happened to our own high-quality machine tool manufacturing?
Not meaning to bring the tone down over a couple of well-done restoration jobs, but I'm sorry to say that, unless there's some chance of replicating that quality in future, (not looking likely at the mo, when accountants and lawyers have the final say) for a new generation to aspire to and benefit from, they may as well be in a museum. All of us schmucks without time, metalworking skills and mega-sponduliks have Chinese-produced, at best European-designed machines to aspire to. Good on you Lie-Neilsen et al for having a go, at another part of the puzzle. Sour grapes rant ends.
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28th May 2012, 12:26 AM #25
Velo ... you make-a-me cry ...
Except I don't quite agree.
You can see the machines I have in my forum Album ... 1940s bandsaw, thicknesser, dimension saw, morticer ... they all look like *crap* compared to Evil Jack's continuing attempts to make the rest of us look bad. ( ) but ...
they are mechanically fairly simple, robust, industrial quality, the old old motors are still working well, and the motors are well separated from the bulk of the machine - so conversion to single phase is possible.
The machines I have - surely mostly by luck - have only needed some common-sense sort of attention to have them performing very nicely.
And if the Old Machines (US) website is anything to go by, there is quite a stock of still extant machinery to puzzle, challenge and`amuse those of us interested in the massive lumps of cast-iron.
Hope Still Reigns.
Cheers,
Paul 'glass-half-full' McGee
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28th May 2012, 02:57 AM #26
+ cheap
... And often they are *much* cheaper to buy than the bright + shiny new stuff.
Also - come to think of it - maybe Hammer (?) and Powermatic and others are making the kind of machines now that will be still running and affordable to the handy-home-lunatic 10+ years from now.
Jet Tools & Machinery Australia- Bandsaws- 18" Powermatic Bandsaw
Cya,
Paul.
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1st June 2012, 02:54 PM #27Woodswarf
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Ok, you've cheered me up.
I went for Powermatic with the table saw and planer because of this - now made in Taiwan (China), but streets ahead of many out there. You just can't beat a well-made lump of cast iron.
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1st June 2012, 05:53 PM #28Senior Member
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1st June 2012, 06:52 PM #29Woodswarf
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Why is the Jet 18" bandsaw less than half the price of the Powermatic? What is WMH not telling us?
(p.s. Wanita at WWWH gave me a very good price on my PM cabinet saw and planer)
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3rd June 2012, 08:44 AM #30
the wadkin Tempel
I save theses machines because i believe there are so wonderful to use. I spit shine them to bring attention for them with the young ins who like the shiny new tin can machines made today.
Where else can you pic a saw up like this for $100. The pattern industry has been hit hard as the foundry all are gone. wood pattern are not made any more and so all of this great machinery is going to scrap.
another lump saved before
after
the bed has pins for index that need to be driven in.
it was nice to see it tarting to look like a lathe again.
this is one nice lathe with all the capacity i will need.
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Old Woodworking Machines • View topic - big big wadkin lathe progress.vfd controls 8/15
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