Thread: W. Tyzack and Sons and Turner Brassbacksaw

CK

There were various branches and combinations of the Tyzack group of families. I could only find 1950 and 1965 catalogues. Neither quite matched your saw and I don't have Simon Barley's book to hand at the moment, which gives the time frame during which this particular branch of Tyzacks operated.

This is from the 1950 catalogue. The 120 features the lambs tongue handles but the model is wrong. The Nos 13B & 14B elephant brand seem correct but the handles are wrong.

W. Tyzack & Son 1950 cat.jpg

I suspect your saw is earlier because of the roundness in the grip of the handle and the lambs tongue, which is more refined than the catalogue pic above. The 1965 offering was more blocky again. It is very likely your saw is at least pre WW2.

Regards
Paul

Hi CK. Here is my latest resto. You and Johnknee inspired me to get this done.

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Cklett,

From the book Paul was mentioning,British Saws & Saw Maker’s from 1660 by Simon Barley.


It would seem your saw is from 1890, 1910.
It’s a good one.

Cheers Matt.

An a little about the name Tyzack,

Cheers Matt.

Thanks Matt

The Tyzack family was quite large and they operated primarily from Sheffield, which was the main hub of steel making and consequently saw production, but also there was a London Tyzack connection.

Simon Barley points to W. Tyzack & Sons using "non pareil" and the elephant trademarks from 1876 and both were used as indicators of quality. There were also several collaborations with other people outside of the Tyzack name such as Turner, who was a son-in-law.

Matt's assessment of around 1910 is probably a good start. The handle is the typical English Beech with the noticeably prominent fleck. The heavy brass back is typical of British back saws.

Regards
Paul

CK

On looking closer at the pic Matt posted of the Tyzack & Sons & Turner medallion , I think it closely resembles your saw. The elephant tusks vary in different medallions but Matt's pic are identical to your saw and is dated c1880 in Barley's book. I am also assuming that the saw screws are split nuts.

Regards
Paul

Paul,Cklett,

I’m certain that this is the same back !!.


Paul, I also converted the new modern method of measurements too the oldie out of date fart stuff, too help 112mm equals 4.409 inch thingy.

Tho I have know idea what it’s referring too in reference too the picture of the saw back.

Cheers Matt.

Originally Posted by Mountain Ash

Hi CK. Here is my latest resto. You and Johnknee inspired me to get this done.

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That is a nice one. Good job.

Originally Posted by Bushmiller

CK

On looking closer at the pic Matt posted of the Tyzack & Sons & Turner medallion , I think it closely resembles your saw. The elephant tusks vary in different medallions but Matt's pic are identical to your saw and is dated c1880 in Barley's book. I am also assuming that the saw screws are split nuts.

Regards
Paul

Yes, it has split nuts.

Thanks a lot to all for your feedback and Matt for going through the book for me. Great stuff.

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Originally Posted by Simplicity

Paul, I also converted the new modern method of measurements too the oldie out of date fart stuff, too help 112mm equals 4.409 inch thingy.

Tho I have know idea what it’s referring too in reference too the picture of the saw back.

Cheers Matt.

Thanks Matt

Actually, when talking vintage saws I do think that the original measurements in Imperial seem more appropriate.

However, those measurements from Simon barley's book refer to the length of the stamp or etch as depicted in the photo. Most of them are not to scale so it gives some reference. At least, that is what I think it is.

Regards
Paul