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    Default Wolfenden 10inch Tilting Table saw.

    These little Wolfenden saws for some reason I am very fond of, especially since they are a tilting arbor saw and very handy, I had one years ago that I had passed on to a good friend and kinda missed it when I did, but it has gone to a good home, it is used by its owner quite often and well looked after and cherished in his shop, and I do say hello to it when I visit.
    I spotted another late last year interstate with a buy it now price of $280, I found a depo to have the machine dropped of and then $150 to get it back down to Melbourne.
    For some reason all the planets were in alignment and proceedings went very smooth, saved me around 18 hours of driving any way.
    I was very pleased with the condition , it is a very old model and judging from the early wolfenden cast iron badge, which began appearing on Wolfenden Machines as early as the mid 1930's which only adds more fuel to the debate of who came up with the design of both body, styling, and tilting mechanism as this machine is very similar to the American made Unisaw made by Delta,
    I mean this table saw is early Wolfenden, the last Pic may hold the key to something, a number stamped in the cast top......
    D3A 0086 8584.
    It is missing the fence but I can fabricate something up at a later date but for now I have put it away until I have the time to restore and give it the attention it deserves.
    This one is a keeper...









    Melbourne Matty.

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    Matty,

    Great save. Could I start the questions with the following:

    * If you get a chance could I get a look at the inside of the control (magnetic switch) box.

    * With the stamped do you think it refers to the specific machine, and is it stamped on the body anywhere, have you seen other similar numbers on other machines (old or more recent)?

    * What size motor and what brand?

    * What information can you share on the mitre slots, I don't know much about the change in mitre slots, and haven't paid it too much attention until the Stenner (which has an old dovetail arrangement). Given that this is an older machine than the Stenner, were the square mitre slots an American thing and dovetail English?

    Thanks for sharing.

    Cheers,

    Camo

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    Quote Originally Posted by camoz View Post
    Matty,

    Great save. Could I start the questions with the following:

    * If you get a chance could I get a look at the inside of the control (magnetic switch) box.


    Cheers,

    Camo

    Camo, thats not a question, thats a directive.
    Funny, When I said I have put this machine away I should of given a bit more of an apt description on "put away", I have an old mechanics inspection pit in my shop about 7 feet deep, thats where the wolfenden saw was stored, had you known of this Camo I think you would of been pissing your self with laughter as I took of the pit cover, set up a flood light, and proceeded to do yoga, (I phone camera in hand) to try to get some pic's for you, all along thinking Cam is laughing at me, I just know it ...lol...
    Any way, success !!





    Camo, the stamps are interesting and probably the only real way of telling any thing about this machine, I have seen A & S wolfenden badges before from the 50's where the first two digits are the year that the machine is built, this can also be seen punched into the table of the machine as well.
    The lettering punched into the wolfenden table saw is much smaller and the first numbers do not reflect a date, so this one has me stumped.

    The next photos are of the motor Tag, it seems to be a McColle, I had assumed it was a 3 hp but turns out its only 1 hp, strange for such a big motor.


    As for the mitre gauge grove, your guess is as good as mine, I have a 1927 Greenlee table saw made in the US and that is square edged, my L.S.Barker Rip saw has one side of the miter slot dovetailed, and that is Aussie made, so not sure.
    Thanks for the great questions too mate, I really appreciate the enthusiasm.
    Melbourne Matty.

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    Matty,

    The photos are not quite at the angle I needed, any chance you can climb back in the hole and take some more (I wish I had a pit, then I could say to my wife "I've had that for ages, I just pulled it up from the pit").

    Sorry mate, I thought it was just tucked in the corner (thanks for the photos), I just read my first message and it did sound a bit demanding.

    Cheers,

    Camo

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    It's all Good Camo, I would rather have one hundred questions, than no questions and responses to a post !

    Melbourne Matty.


    PS, do you need a better shot of the switch ?

    Hahaha....

    No seriously....

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.S.Barker1970 View Post
    These little Wolfenden saws for some reason I am very fond of, especially since they are a tilting arbor saw and very handy, I had one years ago that I had passed on to a good friend and kinda missed it when I did, but it has gone to a good home, it is used by its owner quite often and well looked after and cherished in his shop, and I do say hello to it when I visit.
    ..................Melbourne Matty.
    Here is that later, beautifully restored little Charles Wolfenden - BuzaWolf table saw.
    I added the router table and the brass locking knobs for the wheels and the throat plate. Other than that, it is just as Matty let me have it. (in a moment of weakness)....
    I get 650+ mm from the fence to the blade.
    I move the wooden fence from side to side on the metal fence as needed.
    Matty, you tell the full resto story, you will know better than me what you did. I just enjoy using it!!!
    Regards,
    Peter
    PS maybe should do a pictorial on the the new shed with the machines all set up so I can walk around them now

















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    Smile Wolfenden

    G'day Matty, thats a beautifull saw you have. I love the rounded edges on the cabinet base and the W's on the feet, and the old Wolfenden logo is a ripper. I'd love to get my hands on one. Cheers Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightwood View Post
    PS maybe should do a pictorial on the the new shed with the machines all set up so I can walk around them now

    Peter..
    Pete, I was hoping you would chime in, thank-you !!
    Fantastic looking pic's you have put up, the little Wolfenden saw still looks great, I do have some shots of it being restored so I will put them up.

    A post on the new shed would be superb, I reckon everyone here would enjoy that !!

    Melbourne Matty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greggyboy View Post
    G'day Matty, thats a beautifull saw you have. I love the rounded edges on the cabinet base and the W's on the feet, and the old Wolfenden logo is a ripper. I'd love to get my hands on one. Cheers Greg
    Thanks Greg, I'm glad you like them, the machine Pete has I first saw on ebay and no one bid the very first time it went up, It had a high start price, second time and a reduced price same thing no one bid, I had been watching amazed, I mean how much do you pay for a new imported tilt arbor table saw ?? ..." Hey that's a Tilting arbor !!"
    Third time I didn't need an invitation, I think I put $500 on it, and won it, the best thing about Pete's was that it was 100% complete with a 2 hp single Phase motor, couldn't go wrong there, these little saws are as solid as a rock, I would have one of these over an import any day !

    Greg, keep a sharp eye on Ebay, you'll see one !!

    Melbourne Matty.

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    Nice machine, but I think the gremlins took over the thread title.

    Wolfenden 10inch Tilting Table saw.
    These little Wolfenden saws for some reason I am very fond of, especially since they are a tilting arbor saw and very handy

    Sorry to be a contrary SOB.
    I used to be an engineer, I'm not an engineer any more, but on the really good days I can remember when I was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malb View Post
    Nice machine, but I think the gremlins took over the thread title.

    Wolfenden 10inch Tilting Table saw.
    These little Wolfenden saws for some reason I am very fond of, especially since they are a tilting arbor saw and very handy

    Sorry to be a contrary SOB.

    I guess I could take the line of "oh you know what I mean" but then again you must of known to correct me in the first place...

    Thanks Malb, I will take it on board.

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    Smile Wolfenden

    Whats wrong with gremlins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greggyboy View Post
    Whats wrong with gremlins?
    Probably nothing Greg, they just should not be fed any food after Midnight, no bright lights, and don't get them wet...lol
    Like I remember my 80's films.

    Melbourne Matty.

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    Default Another 10 inch wolfenden

    Though not as bewdiful as the last saw added to the thread, it works like a dream. It came from my neighbour's backyard - yes out in the weather - where it was doing occasional service mainly as a ripsaw (he also owns a PK which gets to live in his workshop). The riving knife has been removed as Mark was using a 12" rip blade in it. (Henry - its not the one from Art School - not sure where Mark picked this one up from)

    So I pulled it apart, cleaned it up, pulled out the 3 phase motor, tussled with a local electrical repair place for close on 3 months over motor selection, motor directions and their not terribly good customer service, got a sparkie in for a legal 15amp point, painted the base, wandered out to Capital Veneering for an offcut of Corian for the router table insert, made the sled and the biesemeyer knock-off fence and now spend a lot of time smiling as her 3 HP single phase motor purrs into action.

    Having used panel saws from a Martin to SCM and god knows what in between, Felders, a Wadkin 10AGS and even a Gilbro printer's saw, this is by far the nicest table saw I ever used.

    Except for dust. Partly I suspect because its using a 2700rpm 3HP motor, when it cuts sheet it puffs it out of every opening, crevice and crack. So I'd be most grateful to hear of other people's success taming the dust monster. The one good thing about getting to witness the pluming effect is that I've realised most of the fine stuff comes off high on the machine. So am considering closing in the motor opening, putting door bristles on the tilt slot and fitting a 4" port on the left hand side above the Buzawolf plate which would put it level just about with the lower third of the blade.

    Wolfenden saw_crosscutting sleigh.jpgSaw_02.jpgSaw.jpgSaw with fence.jpgSaw with fence to left.jpgSaw manufacturers plate.jpgSaw_motor.jpg

    And a word from the now wise. Test the direction of the motor BEFORE fitting it. Especially when the fitting is going to be task of Heath Robinson proportions.

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    KJ401,

    Thanks for sharing, love the router side table and the sled.

    Regarding the dust, instead of using brushes around the opening for the tilt, another suggestion I read in a post (can't remember which one) was to use fridge magnets to cover the holes. Of cause if you wanted to look a bit more fancy you could go to a sign shop and get them to cut a piece to fit with a hole for the wheel shaft (then go completely fancy and get a blue one to match the base). You just move the magnet when you tilt the blade. The only word of warning suggested was to make sure you don't restrict too much airflow to the motor.

    Quote Originally Posted by KJ401 View Post
    And a word from the now wise. Test the direction of the motor BEFORE fitting it. Especially when the fitting is going to be task of Heath Robinson proportions.
    That's an easy fix, just switch 2 of the phase wires (says the guy with 3 phase power).

    Cheers,

    Camo

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