Thread: my latest clock

Interesting, which is the ugliest and most boring?

At least wiesboy tried to be different and its provoking interest and healthy argument.

But what about that crap grandad clock...lol.

The maker obviously has no idea, and can only make a dull copy of an outdated design concept.

So many are bagging Wiseboy but have trouble backing up their comments. Lets do a search and check out their crap

feel free to say what you like about any of my posted work Lig. wrt to your outdated clock comment - lets wait and see what sells in about 400 yrs... a grandfather clock folloowing formal traditional lines or a bit of E.T. like cedar with some mass produced chinese dials that need batteries to run....

Originally Posted by astrid

theyre are a few basic rules of thumb in all design,
roughly speaking (oh its too hard to explain) but a few basics

Roughly speaking, can you please explain your rules of thumb regarding design for us. I for one are very interested

Originally Posted by weisyboy

whadaya think be honest

Weisy asked for honest comment, OK so some wasnt particulaly constructive critisism.
but dont shoot the messengers.
to trot off and say "well i think yours is craap, so there is a bit childish?
Weisy's a big boy and I'm sure he can cope

Astrid

Originally Posted by Zed

feel free to say what you like about any of my posted work Lig. .

Dont get bent out of shape Zed. It wasnt aimed at you. I was typing as you posted. I like your work and at at least you gave constructive criticism... Chill

Originally Posted by Lignum

Roughly speaking, can you please explain your rules of thumb regarding design for us. I for one are very interested

As i said its too hard for me to explain, (I'M maths challenged) but i'm sure theres a design for dummies book you could look up.

Astrid

Originally Posted by Zed

ok just had another look at it. critique:

1) its unbalanced,

what makes it unbalanced

2) the THREE DIFFERENT dials dont compliment each other, they are diff sizes, diff colours

i have said that i need to find matching parts

and looking closely the triangle they form as apex points are scalene which as you know 3 uneven length sizes and angles,

i dont see a problem with this. if everything is even and symetrical i find it boring.

3) roman nums do not look good when offset by what I think I see as arabic numerals.

there is only one clock face how can see both types of numbers?

4) a strange shaped bit of wood doesnt mean interesting

no and a nice square board joined in the noicest posable way can still look bland and boaring

5) since we being critical; the photogrtaphy is poor; flash reflection, the "mount" is a couch, and there is this distraction of a cable and appliance drawing the viewer away from the piece.

i am not a photographer and i couldnot care less if the picture was upside down and only half visable it makes the peice on worse or better. not to bad for a $30 woolworths camera thow.

6) the hole/knot/rip also distracts

what am i suposed to do about the hole?

7) I blew up the photo u posted and while the res of the photo is poor due to ( i assume) size limitaitions on the BBS it doesnt look like the finish is particulary good, it seems uneven .. what grade of paper did u go up to ? what was the finish used ?

i sanded to 1200 grit wet and dry then buffed with EEE and aplied wattle crystal clear.

8) a large roman face is "FORMAL" NOT abstract!!!! rules dude rules!!!

who said it was suposed to be abstract? its a bloudy clock.

thanks for the oppotunity to offer some critique - perhaps some industrial arts teachers can use this peice as an example of how to finish something without expecting full marks (sorry - dont mean to be rude but... it looks like something that a 1st former could finish in a single period (not allowing for drying time))

now you have said what i did rong you can tell me how you would have done it.

leave brickie be - if u ask for feedback expect it - how many people say "I know what I like and I dont like that ?"

there is always a reason you dont like sompthing you cant just say its horrable without a reason.

Flame me but - thats my honest opinion. its ugly, remove the dials and put them in a formal setting where theu dont look out of place.

i love the beuty of timber not joinery.
i would mutch prefer to see a peice of timber in its natural state (a slab, burl, branc etc) and think it should be used more in furniture construction.

Originally Posted by weisyboy

thanks for the feed back.

what would you have done given the same peice of wood?

Made a really cool skateboard.

I think Zed covered the other stuff pretty well
astrid

Originally Posted by astrid

As i said its too hard for me to explain, (I'M maths challenged) but i'm sure theres a design for dummies book you could look up.

Astrid

But why bring up rules of design to offer constructive criticism, and cant fill us in on the those basic rules

Originally Posted by astrid

As i said its too hard for me to explain, (I'M maths challenged) but i'm sure theres a design for dummies book you could look up.

Astrid

if you cant explin it how can you practise it?

I think one of those greek blokes covered it pretty well
its something like 2/3-1/3 or as in the parthenon.. oh shoot i cant remember the formula, as i said i'm maths challenged.
Ask skew,
thats if you really want to know and arnt just being beligerant

Astrid

remember astrid you should only prech what what you practice.

and you obviously dont practice it cos u dont even know what it is that you are preching

(She wades in to the fray..)

So Wiesyboy, what was your aim with this piece? The success or otherwise of the finished piece can only be judged against what you were aiming to achieve.

The over all impression at first viewing is of a face, with quirky slightly off set odd eyes, line for a nose, clock for mouth. Even ears provided by shape of wood. It looks funny (hilarious. OK and peculiar. ) and almost Picasso-esk.(is that a word?) If this was the aim it perhaps could have been taken even further, perhaps with the choice of a white clock face to be teeth, and even more offset eyes. Perhaps this is the start of a whole new humerous phase.

If your aim was just to make a clock with barometer etc, then I'm not sure it is a success because the quirky face impression is so strong that it is hard to ignore. "Normal" clocks are a bit more boring, emphasizing symmetry and balance, and imagine they belong in gentlemens clubs. (The kind Rumpole of the Bailey went to.) The choice of wood could have been a little more subdued. This piece of wood definitely wanted to be a face.

Originally Posted by astrid

I think one of those greek blokes covered it pretty well
its something like 2/3-1/3 or as in the parthenon.. oh shoot i cant remember the formula, as i said i'm maths challenged.

Lol... I think i will try your method on my next cupboard