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25th June 2012, 05:15 PM #1
New clock design ....Be part of it.
Hi
The clock bug has bitten So I am having a go at making a new design from scratch.
I will be making all the parts out of 6mm ply and brass rod 1/4 & 1/8 inch.
What I had in mind as for starters is attached.
What I hope is to get your feed back as the design goes forward.
I am think of doing this in a kit format, so I will be needing some interested people that will have a go at putting together a clock and reporting back. They also get to keep the clock as away of me saying thanks for there time and feedback.
What I have so far is a open designed clock that can be mounted flat against a wall at almost any angle of rotation that lets the weights fall unimpeded.
In this configuration the pendulum can swing out from the wall far enough that it will clear the body of the clock. In other words it can swing in front of the clock face and hands if you wish to have the body in a vertical on the wall.
I also see a need to have rear mounts available if you want the pendulum to swing behind the clock body. Let me know your thoughts on this.....
I have not put the hour gears in as yet but the will go inside the clock face unless some one has a better suggestion.....
I have tried to use the most and largest gears I could so it look big, That also fit inside my cnc router. I'am going to build a bigger one soon hopefully this year.
The sizes are approx; body; 500mm long by 300mm wide by 90 deep (not including any rear mounts), pendulum; 1200 long, clock face; 240mm OD (made from 12 piece, again to fit into my router)
There should be space to fit several different hand styles in the space around the bigger parts... maybe some suggestion here...
Spoke shapes... any thoughts out there.... put them here...
Come and be part of it.......
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25th June 2012, 05:38 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Rusel, I will ask my 11 year old son for feedback. Main reason for this is that he is watching me scroll saw one, and would love to do one as well, but can't use the scroll saw quite accurately enough yet. He would love a kit of parts though. I guess that would be my first feedback then - something simple for an older kid to put together (perhaps with some little help) would be great for me/us. The CNC stuff certainly lends itself to that.
The other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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25th June 2012, 07:32 PM #3Senior Member
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Hey count ,me in..would love to be part of the trial....As far as spoke shapes ...love the curved stuff; as far as the number per wheel 5 is more stable than a 4 spoke wheel. I would like to see how things would look if the face was slightly bigger. Your alot brave and smarter than me to do your own design from scratch. Well done Russell! What may I ask inspired this venture into the clock design.? Ps does this one have a yoke?
Dean.
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25th June 2012, 10:23 PM #4
petersemple
You have hit a good point with the young fella and what I have in mind as a finish product he should have no problems putting together I guess we will find out.
Dean
I will cad some 5 spoke gear and post them and we can see how they look.
Yes you are right about the face, by making it in segments it can be simply made bigger. We can try it on the next design post along with your spokes.
Why you ask, because we can I say. What other reason do you need.
No yoke, as this then lets you revolve the clock to any angle you want and move the pendulum from front to back if you want.
Keep the comments and ideas coming......
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25th June 2012, 10:29 PM #5
Russell,
If your still needing testers you can count me in. Would be interesting task.
I can remember helping a guy in Singapore with his origami book. He would give me his instructions and ask me to test them and make recommendations for clearer instruction. Apparently he was one of the only masters outside Japan at the time. I even remember his name from 15 years ago, Ronald Koh.
Maybe you'll need to write a book??..
Peter
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25th June 2012, 10:47 PM #6Simsy
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Hi Rusel
I'm interested in being involved. I'm just experimenting at the moment using perspex because it is a fairly stable material. But, I'm having some issues with my CNC at the moment. I was planning to start a perspex version of the Brian Laws clock 11 real soon but it's not happening for me yet.
I'd like to do my first clock from a kit though, so I'd be happy to pay for that privilege and help along the way too if I can.
I've got some ideas for some different gears, so I'll try and draw them up and send to you.
Cheers
Geoff
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25th June 2012, 11:17 PM #7
Peter
You are correct there has to be instruction and while I am not to bad at mechanical design,... the wrote bit I does not do good at ... So I may well take you up on that side of things. Thanks, I hope you can follow you own instructions.
Geoff
What thickness of acrylic are you thinking of? Why I ask is I helped my son make one using 3mm and you have to have every thing just right as it can flex and the gears will slip past each other.
The idea is to get kit clocks up to a salable product and the I will make a run for forum members on the cheap.
Yes please, post your gear designs let us see them.
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25th June 2012, 11:40 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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I do like the idea of being able to put the pendulum at the fron/back and any angle. Makes for a more versatile design.
The other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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26th June 2012, 12:45 AM #9
There was a crooked man who had a crooked stick and a crooked clock as well by the looks.
I like the idea that I can put it any orientation on the wall and just turn the face for a proper position for reading it.
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26th June 2012, 01:17 AM #10Simsy
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Hi Rusel
I'm using 6mm and 10mm perspex and I also have some 14mm if I need it. As I said, I'm only experimenting at the moment, so nothing decided.
I'm not sure how to post the gear spoke drawings so I did screenshots and put them in a word doc and attached that. Hope you can open them. They're nothing special, just ideas that I play around with.
Cheers
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26th June 2012, 09:01 AM #11
Yes that correct but there lie another bit to be designed to be done, How to mount the clock face so that it can be at any angle. I would like this to be a tight fit so glue would not be needed till final mount onto the wall, maybe no glue at all!
I have made clips with ply wood, see attach for clip test I did some time back, maybe system something like that, might have to be smaller.That my first thought...
Any ideas out there.............
Have to have same on 60 second face also...
Geoff
Thanks for the time to put your spoke design into the mix.
What do people think is Geoff design in the ball park?... could be the one...
I will draw up something similar and see how it scales and post it in the next design update for viewing.
Put your design up before it to late...
This does bring up a question about the look of the clock...should all the gears have the same spoke design?...just scaled to fit each gear....
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26th June 2012, 09:29 AM #12
Maybe a face with spokes in one place and a separate ring around it.
If the spoke section has a slot front and back. The ring with numbers can go on the outside of that. And 4 pieces with your clip either side that then slides over.
But then again, I'd have no problem with having to glue the whole spoke face in place once happy with location/orientation.
Peter
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26th June 2012, 10:58 AM #13GOLD MEMBER
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As to the spokes, I think they all should be the same just to present a visually joined appearance. The exception may be the smallest ones, which may need to be solid in order to be strong enough. I quite like the swirls in the original because to me they match the swoops of the pendulaum and the main frames.
The other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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26th June 2012, 01:44 PM #14Simsy
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Having had another close look at your original design, I think I agree with Peter that your spoke design would be more in keeping with the style of the clock. My designs would be a bit too busy.
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26th June 2012, 02:12 PM #15GOLD MEMBER
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Don't get me wrong Geoff, I really like both your designs too, but I would put them in a slightly more formal design of clock. Hah, maybe we can get two clock designs up and running here.
The other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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