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16th July 2012, 04:05 PM #211Member
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I like the generalist approach using whatever options are most convenient at any given location.
As for wooden masts, how would a length of construction grade radiata pine go for a one piece. I have seen some reasonable ie knot free straight pieces that could be tapered nicely to make a stayed mast. They are dirt cheap as well, I just don't know about the strength given radiata tends to be brittle.
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17th July 2012, 12:53 AM #213Dave
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17th July 2012, 01:08 AM #214
Might be tough to seal the channel in epoxy (assuming...). Also, the resulting cut might be tough on the sail, but easing those edges will be tough if the ply is already assembled. Maybe the right router bits can fit into the channel and ease the interior edge, but that's a long slot. And it might be a lot to expect from a homebuilder to have a router and the right bits.
Maybe those ply shoulders can be ripped to size first, and attached to the back face of the mast afterward. That would allow for sealing all surfaces and could provide for more opportunity to reinforce the mating surface for the shoulders.
...that is, if you go with homebuilt woodDave
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17th July 2012, 03:10 PM #215
Radiata with no knots is not too bad for spar making. But my spar designs do compensate for it a bit.
The solid mast for the goat is quite over strong. And the built up square hollow masts are a way of spreading out any potential defects because they are made of so many pieces of wood.
I'd be a little bit aware making yards and the thinner booms out of Radiata but a good piece should be fine.
MIK
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17th July 2012, 03:12 PM #216
Dave ... you have listed my concerns rather nicely! I'm nutting it through.
Maybe I'll accept that the edge won't be sealed and every few years the ply planed off and some more glued on. With reasonable ply I am guessing it will last much longer than we all expect.
And with epoxy gluing any damp won't get into the rest of the structure.
thinking
thinking
MIK
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18th July 2012, 12:06 PM #217Prototypes-R-Us
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The gaboon plywood has arrived, I'll be tracing out the parts this evening. News at eleven.
Rick Landreville.
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18th July 2012, 02:29 PM #218
11:00 in whose time zone?
No pressure; you only have a global community of builders waiting on your every cut... Good luck!Dave
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18th July 2012, 03:40 PM #219
Karen Ann's mast is a square hollow-box made of radiata - so far I've had no issues with the mast. The plantation grown radiata is knot-free and straight. Inexpensive, too, $80 for the materials.
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18th July 2012, 05:15 PM #220Prototypes-R-Us
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11:00 pm Pacific time.
Layed out all the plywood for the sides, bottom, airtanks, centrecase, bulkheads and transom.
Total time: 1:45.
Tomorrow I will cut out the parts. I have neighbors who work shift, so the noise from the saw and sanders will bother them...
Rick Landreville
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18th July 2012, 06:53 PM #221SENIOR MEMBER
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Very quick progress indeed! Not that I expected anyting less (adding a bit or pressure here ).
I for one will follow this build very closely and am very much looking forward to seeing her lines in reality.
Best of luck in the build and wishing you fun in the consequent testing sessions!!!
Joost
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23rd July 2012, 11:18 PM #222SENIOR MEMBER
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So..., were any cuts made and did the neighbours get a bit angry with you?
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31st July 2012, 01:36 PM #223Member
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I just got back from a weeks holiday expecting to see some progress. Actually in true Rick fashion, I expected to see a completed hull! Pics please or it doesn't exist!
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31st July 2012, 03:55 PM #224
Rick was half camping and half celebrating a new arrival in the family.
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