Thread: Three Billy Goats Gruff!

Originally Posted by callsign222

My blog post is up

Goat Island Skiff Amateur Style: Small Reach Regatta 2012!

Great write up and awesome photos!

Very nice sailing waters I must say, I am quite jealous. Perfect sail and oar territory. And by the read of it, the Goats blasted the other boats of the water!

Joost

Originally Posted by Joost

Very nice sailing waters I must say, I am quite jealous.

It was a huge change for me. Where I usually sail, I must go out at least 1km from shore before I am clear of rocks. Even further in order to clear a large group of islands to my west. By that point, I am in fairly unprotected water which is frequently quite choppy. Frenchman Bay, where we were sailing, was a dream in comparison.

Originally Posted by Joost

And by the read of it, the Goats blasted the other boats of the water!

Mostly. The Sea Pearl 21s were every bit as fast as the Goats. And no one could touch the Thistle. But we beat the rest of the flock.

Originally Posted by paulie

Mostly. The Sea Pearl 21s were every bit as fast as the Goats. And no one could touch the Thistle. But we beat the rest of the flock.

A Sea Pearl is quite a lot bigger I believe. And the Thistle is a full on racing boat. Not bad I would say! You probably got a few people thinking about trading their current boat for a Goat...

Awesome, awesome! Loved the pics and your blog callsign222!

Originally Posted by Joost

Great write up and awesome photos!

Very nice sailing waters I must say, I am quite jealous. Perfect sail and oar territory. And by the read of it, the Goats blasted the other boats of the water!

Joost

The Goats are quick, no doubt. My Phoenix III and callsign's IAZ,P are quite evenly matched when he has a reef tied in and their sail areas are comparable. But at full sail in 10 knots or so, it's no contest.

I forgot I took a video after the Goats got out of still photo range. What a day.

I'm not sure how to embed this, but here it is:
P1250550 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Originally Posted by paulie

Coming up the bay on day 3, my boat was noticeably less stable than the other two. CCBB and callsign222 both had their boats up on the chine and were slicing along through the waves. I had my boat flatter and was getting bounced around. Eventually, a wave caught me on the port quarter and I came within a hair's breadth of rolling it over, first to windward, then to leeward. The other two boats were not affected and had gone by me by the time I recovered.

Paulie, if single handed in a chop, try getting your weight opposite the daggerboard while keeping it flat. For this you will need a longer tiller extension (60") and hiking straps in front of the seat. If two up, sit on the rail adjacent to the seat and your crew adjacent to the daggerboard right next to you, or on the seat. In this configuration, flat is fast, but more wet

Originally Posted by paulie

I can see that our posts crossed on the net. THANK YOU for taking and posting all those pictures!

Can't wait to sail with you again. When will you be bringing Two Hearted to CT?

No problem, paulie. Hopefully the SRR helped quench your thirst for at-sail photos of your pretty little boat. Contact me if you want anything hi-rez.

It was a pleasure meeting you and K. Can't say I get to CT that often, but family visits do make it easy for me to get to East Greenwich, RI. We also now know of a sweet SP21 in Wickford, which is only a few miles south. callsign222 will apparently travel anywhere in coastal New England to sail. Maybe some time on Narragansett Bay is in order?

Originally Posted by jon m

No problem, paulie. Hopefully the SRR helped quench your thirst for at-sail photos of your pretty little boat. Contact me if you want anything hi-rez

Nothing can quench my thirst for pics of my boat under sail! I'm just hoping that, the next time we sail together, I can return the favor and take some shots of your beauty.

I do want hi-rez copies of a few. I'll pick them tonight.

And I'll happily truck out to RI. Let me know when you will be visiting.

Quick hello here...I loved this SRR. We had more fun this year I think than ever. The HERD of Goats not to mention the wonderful camaraderie this year (we have gotten to all know each other pretty well now) can't me mentioned enough.

I consider the sea trials for BLEAT a success. It was a hard go to get her ready with all my other projects (OPB's/kits) but it happened.

The hull is solid, no issues. The rig is good, needs tuning. The sail is nice, may also get tuned...it is a prototype 'sport' sail for the boat, so there will be some tweaks. The boom needs replacing with a stiffer one. I have to finish the dedicated GIS oars. And I need a good cover system for the hull and rig. More details on my Yawl thread when I get things together.

Cheers

Here's another thread about the SRR at Wooden Boat--

Small Reach Regatta picture thread

Originally Posted by woodeneye

Paulie, if single handed in a chop, try getting your weight opposite the daggerboard while keeping it flat. For this you will need a longer tiller extension (60") and hiking straps in front of the seat. If two up, sit on the rail adjacent to the seat and your crew adjacent to the daggerboard right next to you, or on the seat. In this configuration, flat is fast, but more wet

Thanks, Bruce! I will try that.

I wonder if my 8 inch trailer wheels can make it from San Diego to Maine. Anyone need crew?

Hey Paulie,

I was looking through the photos and you were the only one not sitting on the gunwale. In a couple of the shots it may have looked like you were sitting wll inboard.

Out on the gunwale upright or leaning in a bit ... maybe elbows on knees, Kathleen to balance. And then you can be ready to do a full hike or ease sail and bear away if you need some instantaneous uprightness.

It is like a pendulum ... if you make the string longer .. the period of the roll is increased.

I went out with the new owner of Peter Hyndman's Gruff in Feb. He was having problems with gybing and feeling unstable. Moving apart solved the instability problems. To solve the gybing I introduced the idea of watching what the boat was actually doing and respond rather than madly rush to the other side. Also to bear away as the boom went over.

We basically went from frantic unstable feeling gybes to really nice slow feeling ones in about 20 minutes of sailing.

Who wants to come to the Oklahoma event in October. I'll be there and can run a clinic ... or come to the East Coast immediately after

MIK

Yes, Kathi and I should have repositioned ourselves as soon as we joined the group. With a small chop on our quarter and not quite enough lateral pressure on the sail to steady us, there was a definite tendency to roll. We'll know better next time.

Overall, I'm still getting used to the lack of mass in the hull. I'm not used to such a light boat. I've stalled coming about a few times because I'm so used to having more momentum. I have to consciously remind myself that I can't rely on hull mass to carry me through the wind. The same thing trips me up with distributing weight when going downwind and re-entering the boat after a capsize.

We'll get there. Sooner or later I'll get used to the boat's weight. (Then I'll get in something with more mass and overshoot every tack!)