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  1. #316
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    Hi Gyula,

    Are your model boats wooden too?

    Michael.

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    Default PDR Plans question

    G’day.

    I’m sure I have asked this before but here we go again.

    I have version 1.00r (file called Racer secure v01x00v.pdf)

    On pages 5,6,& 7 there are some asterisks * & some double asterisks ** I can find what the ** means but not the * & I’m guessing that it means ‘not an exact measured quantity in one piece’

    I have a bloke at my place cutting up hoop pine logs & we have found one log that has some very good clear long grain so I was going to ask him to cut it up to the PDR timber list.
    Cliff.
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    Howdy Cliff,

    Actually I am mystified too about the asterisks in the PDRacer Timber cutting lists.

    I think the intention may have been that it was OK to use finger jointed pinus for the asterisked items but I should not (and would not) recommend its use for
    Chine log laminations
    Rudder Box reinforcement
    Transom Vertical stiffener

    Best wishes
    Michael

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    Arrrrrrr... but ye see Jim lad, there be a single asterisk by ye epoxy too....
    That be why I were think'n the quantity be overall, to be divided up steady as she goes.

    There be another single asterisk by ye 58' length o' fram'n.
    Cliff.
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    AAAAAAAAAR, you mean that bit right there, me hearty?

    She be right but its looking like ye ole draughtsman has an itchy asterisk finger. AAAAAAR.

    Boat(swain)Mik

    (think the asterisk against the epoxy should be reflected lower in the page where there is a comment about quantity.)

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    Io be look'n... thar be no reflection for ye single asterisk, just ye double one.
    Cliff.
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    We had some Hoop Pine taken out & there is a bloke here cutting it all up.
    I spotted one log with some good straight grain it in so I asked if he would cut it up to my specs for boat building.

    He cut it up Saturday & sprayed it with Hylite 80 (Anti-mould to stop blue stain)
    Today I used his ute to move it all to my container & then I used his strapping machine to strap it all.
    I have more than enough for 2 PDRacers, there could even be enough for 3, he cut plenty of spares.
    I have enough for at least 3 gaff rigs.

    The log in the pic is what it was cut from; it is almost 20’ long.

    It is all rough cut oversize so it will have to be dressed when it is dry.

    The container has a solar charged battery operated fan in it & it gets nice & warm in the sun so it shouldn’t take too long.

    I’ll let you know how it goes.
    Cliff.
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    you beaudy.
    Not going to tell you how much a 20' board of hoop is down here lets just say it makes you go then

    And we now expect to see some birdsmouth masts as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2c1Iw View Post
    .....And we now expect to see some birdsmouth masts as well
    There may be a problem with that.

    We do have 6 lenghts of 70mm x 15mm & 5 lenghts of 42mm x 15mm but we will have to wait & see how it looks when it is dry.

    There are some branches on one side of the log about 2/3 of the way along. (See the pic, marked with a red ring.)

    The mast pieces came off the other side (top) of the log to avoid it & they seem to be fairly clear.
    Cliff.
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    Be aware that birdsmouth masts are heavier than the standard rectangular PDR masts.

    This is not a reason to decide not go go birdsmouth, but it is an important consideration.

    Also if someone wants to do a birdsmouth mast for the standard rigs they should speak to me if they don't know how to work out the correct dimensions to match the standard masts.

    Michael

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    Dear Boatbuilders,
    After reading through the whole thread - I am getting more and more enthusiastic about building my first PDR. I have already built a Eureka 155 - now looking for more fun and challenges. I hope I can have some chat with Gyula from Romania who seems to be Hungarian - is that right Gyula? - especially about getting the right material which is normally the bottleneck of such projects in CEE. I have already ordered my plan from seawing boats - haven't recieved yet. I am waiting impatiently. It is a pity that winter is coming in our hemisphere - but I'll have enough time to build it before I launch it. So, let's start my PDR - I will keep you informed about the procedure.
    Take care
    Bests
    Csaba (Mezix)

    Csaba has started building a PDRacer in Hungary. He will be able to fight out the Central European champs with Koala and Theodor in Slovenia and Gyula in Romania (who will have a whole sailing season's advantage on the others!!! He looks very fast in this video and this video)
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    Default Mast facing

    Dear Michael and others

    Working on my PDR mast (hollow box) I was wondering does it matter which side of the mast should face forward/bacward: wide staves or narrow staves? Or it doesn't matter?

    I sould decide this before I make a 9mm srew notch at the base of the mast.
    Peter

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    Howdy Koala,

    (that is such a great nickname for a Slovenian resident! I always smile when I see it - appeals to my OZ sense of humour)

    There is no right way round for the mast. I always assume that they will come out with a little bend once they are made. The best idea is to do the notch so the bend will be towards the back or the front of the boat and NOT sideways. I think that is mentioned in the plan.

    If you mast is straight then, Koala my friend, you have a real problem which is entirely your own fault.

    I have no advice for you if this is the case as I have never experienced this situation. If it does ever happen to me (it won't) my only option will be look at the thing and think ... "this way" .... or ..... "this way"..... or

    Michael

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    Thank you Michael for your reply. I guess "koala" will stick with me for ever now as will my Aussie experinece.

    Re. the mast. It is straight I was just asking because of its bending characteristics if any side is any different.

    I don't dare to put too much pressure on it (as I saw on one of your photos that you or Midge are standing on it).
    I'm really surprised how light the mast is for its size. It barely fits my workshop. And although I was relly nervous while workong on it it turned out to be a not too difficult job.
    Peter

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