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    What a lot of the senior dinghies are doing with vang attachments on carbon spars up into quite big boats is to use some spectra line.

    As in attached drawing below - it requires nothing specialised to be made up and with the wraps the end attachment fitting on the left can be quite light. Maybe I have too many wraps or they extend too long along the boom ... but you get the idea.

    With the PDR you could use 4mm spectra dinghy line. With the Goat I would use 5mm spectra but probably use the core only - removing the casing.

    MIK

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    Default Coastal Cruising

    This is some of our coast in the South West:


    Spot the (quite large) fishing boat behind the wave. The photographer (Andreas Apse) must have had some powers of persuasion. "Just take the boat in a bit closer to the rocks to give an idea of how big the waves are, I'll come over and shoot film from the helicopter"

    I've spent time on this coast in my sea kayak, but I think I'll confine my coastal cruising ambitions in the Goat to places further north - the Marborough Sounds and Northland with any luck:


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    Hey Ian. Winter in New England is beautiful. Let's trade places for a season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by callsign222 View Post
    Hey Ian. Winter in New England is beautiful. Let's trade places for a season.
    How about you come on over and we have a go at doing the first trip around Fiordland in a Goat? Launch from Te Waewae Bay in the south, go west around Puysegur Point, then north up the coast to Milford Sound. (The picture of the Jasmine behind the 9 metre wave is off Breaksea Island, almost the halfway point)



    You might around in a couple of weeks, depending on how much time you have to spend holed up on some little beach waiting for the wind to 'moderate to gale force'. Might go considerably quicker if you get a good southwest blow after Puysegur and can stay out there surfing along.

    I'd love to see New England, but have had enough of winter for a while!

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    Yeah, yeah, yeah... we all have the worst/best sailing conditions in the world.
    Building Gardens of Fenwick, a Welsford Parthfinder
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    Goat Island Skiff - Sacramento

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    That would be quite the trip! Wooo!

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    My sail has arrived!



    Tanbark cloth, loose footed, 3 leech battens, 3 reefs spaced 600mm apart. Third reef leaves a little more sail area than the second reef in the plans.

    I've been getting sidetracked doing lots of fancy little bits of laminating, but am about to start putting the big bits together. More links to pictures with comments here soon, in the meantime some of what I have been doing can be seen here:

    Goat Island Skiff Build - a set on Flickr

    I have a mad idea to build this boat entirely without metal in the hull: Rudder pintles etc and blocks and everything entirely out of wood and epoxy.





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    Well, I can see what you mean about being side-tracked with laminating! Love it.

    It will certainly be a unique blend of some traditional timber engineering with the wildly ultra modern carbon spars, yet I feel it will work very well. Well done!

    Who made your sail Ian? Looks to me like the smallest sailmaker on the planet!

    PS. Don't forget to lube the rudder fittings with Lanolin grease

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    I've just realised something.... probably the last person in the world to realise it too, but

    your boat is simply a marriage of organic and inorganic carbon

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    Yes, carbon composite technology in one form or another. Lanolin for lubrication is a good tip, I'll chase one of the local sheep and grab a tuft of wool when I get the chance.

    My sailmaker is Lyttleton Sails. They had some left over tanbark cloth from a bigger job, so it didn't cost extra than the usual stuff. They could put the data from my yard bend into their computer cutting system, so things should match up well. I think it will be good having what should be three quite usable reefs - first reef will bring the sail area down pretty close to a Laser so should be quite manageable solo. I need to get cracking and get the hull done!

    Between me, them and C-Tech, we have a radical new rig planned for the GIS:



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    Hehe, yes it might need a more radical rig to get it to foil successfully.

    On the subject of foiling boats, the Moth Worlds will be held on our doorstep in a couple of weeks (Belmont Bay - Lake Macquarie) so I'll be popping down there to have a look. I believe the old Scow Moths are also competing, but of course in a different category. Gotta love the old scow Moth...

    I believe that our new crowned International Sailor of the Year will also be competing...Tom Slingsby (World Champion Laser and Etchells). Does that man ever sleep?


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    The Leander R class was the first with the current square top mainsails - back in the mid '80s.

    Then it went to cats and now you see it everywhere!

    Nice to hear a twin wire class is persevering with full foiling. The International 14s tried it here and when the boat dropped off the foils and nosedived the crew hit the forestay so hard they broke ribs and limbs. The 14s decided at that point that they would only use rudder foils - so they load up the wing on the rudder by trapezing from by the transom even in moderate winds.

    MIK

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodeneye View Post
    Hehe, yes it might need a more radical rig to get it to foil successfully.

    On the subject of foiling boats, the Moth Worlds will be held on our doorstep in a couple of weeks (Belmont Bay - Lake Macquarie) so I'll be popping down there to have a look. I believe the old Scow Moths are also competing, but of course in a different category. Gotta love the old scow Moth...

    I believe that our new crowned International Sailor of the Year will also be competing...Tom Slingsby (World Champion Laser and Etchells). Does that man ever sleep?
    Hmm ... I am in Sydney and Forster ... so we could go sailing to look? Be a good stir to rig up a Goat too!

    Just a thought!

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    Well MIK, if you can get here then of course that is entirely possible. The Moth Worlds are 8-14th Jan 2011 (8,9th being Saturday, Sunday) so I'll be free on those days if you are. Too bad I have to work the weekdays though. Naturally the Goat is available so a blat around the Bay to observe the Moths sounds good to me.

    Are you still planning on being at the Wooden Boat Festival in Hobart in mid Feb?

    Send me a PM and we can work out the details etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boatmik View Post
    The Leander R class was the first with the current square top mainsails - back in the mid '80s.

    Then it went to cats and now you see it everywhere!

    MIK
    I see in the Jan 2011 edition of "Australian Sailing" mag, the centrefold is Panasonic, the 18' skiff with its new round top main. Like fashions, sometimes sailing trends go the full circle too!

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