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20th February 2010, 11:25 AM #91
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20th February 2010, 11:49 AM #92
Ah, but the kicker is, "- if starting from scratch."
From my perspective, you are not starting from scratch. You've got 6 sheets of plywood you bought for your Goat. Are you so much into performance you will notice the difference in weight? How will you know? Will you single-hand the boat enough that a little bit of weight will be noticed when handling the boat on shore?
I'm a tightwad and "cheap." While I have changed my mind and purchased additional material when a less expensive choice didn't work, I would not consider replacing SIX sheets of plywood under the circumstances.
Just my 2 cents worth...Building Gardens of Fenwick, a Welsford Parthfinder
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Karen Ann, a Storer GIS
Goat Island Skiff - Sacramento
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20th February 2010, 12:39 PM #93
Hi Bob,
Thank for your comments. Problem is, the gaboon is 33 % lighter (approx) than the PM. This is significant when it comes to lugging the thing around my hilly terrain - I live half way up, or down, a sort of cliff - and around on the beach, by myself, I'm keen on saving that non-trivial 4 kg x 5 = 1 bag of cement!
I like cheap too (I paid AU$45/sheet for the stuff) - which in this instance was my downfall. Should have waited and saved up: I'm still nowhere near starting the Goat ;). Fools and their money, etc.
Maybe I could get away with replacing 4 sheets -fuselagehull sides (if not bottom).
Or perhaps I could go into business making and selling expensive epoxy-coated dolls' houses ;). Actually, that last phrase suggests that I've already 'poxed the sheets: I haven't. Maybe varnish...
Cheers,
Alex.
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20th February 2010, 04:09 PM #94
Hi Bob,
As a sort of postscript to my previous post, to see what sort of conniptions I've put myself through, see my 'Duck thread and search for "paulownia mast" and "Eurolite ply bottom". That link actually drops you into part (one of many) of the paulownia mast fiasco, so you don't even need to search straight away. Bargain ;)...
To be strictly correct, the two things referred to above were actually impinging on the 'Duck build from about the beginning onwards; the 6 mm PM Goat plywood choice won't become an issue until the end of the Goat build, when it comes time to get the boat out of the workshop, or maybe a bit sooner, e.g., when the time comes to paint it.
It's called "making a rod for my own back", and was mainly been generated by impatience on my part to get cracking on the 'Duck. I got the ply because I was getting a whole lot of hoop pine and WRC for the 'Duck and Goat, and the ply helped defray the cost of shipping the other timber - and vice versa. And the price of the PM had just come down drastically. Thought I'd be "efficient", you see. "Haste makes waste" is another saying that sprigs to mind...
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20th February 2010, 05:21 PM #95
Alex -
No need to justify your choices, decisions, actions or methods. Do what works for you. Enjoy the process. Life is too short not to have fun.Building Gardens of Fenwick, a Welsford Parthfinder
Gardens of Fenwick
Karen Ann, a Storer GIS
Goat Island Skiff - Sacramento
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21st February 2010, 10:27 AM #96
Hi Bob,
I sort of use my threads for "thinking out loud" at times (well, a lot of the time ;). I find that throwing things up in the air and see who can shoot it down - and more importantly how and why - is very helpful :). It makes me pause before making rash decisions. Although I have to say that in the case of the liteply (which I use in my model aircraft in internal structures where weight is an issue - well, weight is always an issue in flying things), I really, really made the wrong one after not thinking it through analytically enough and being swayed by the price - and not realising that I was going to be using the same stuff as in my planes, albeit a bit thicker...
Cheers,
Alex.
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