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    Default GIS in Santa Rosa, California

    It's official, building on my GIS has begun. I fished some fir out of my stash to make my spars, and made the first cuts on staves for a hollow box mast. I thought a box mast was butt-ugly, but after monkeying around with practice birdsmouth tubes, I have seen the light and discovered that the box masts are indeed a thing of beauty Nothing extraordinary, and I'll try to avoid covering ground that others have gone over. I'll post if there is something unusual, or if I find a different way to accomplish a certain task, if something problematic comes up, and of course to mark milestones in the build.

    Here's proof...wood and sawdust



    I did make a great score today, however. While sorting through my pile of timber, I was wrestling with the idea of having to laminate stock in order to get specified dimension for the lug and boom. All of my fir has been planed, and is 3/4" thick. Plans call for 40mm diameter on these two spars, which is 1 5/8". That means I would have to laminate my stock, and then cut it down again in order to get the size needed. Alot of extra work and wasted wood. Screw that. This morning I was in the lumber supply looking over some bar clamps, so I wandered over through the lumber racks, and I spy some 1 5/8" diameter fir rods. Clear, straight, reasonably tight grain and in nice 14' lengths. Snapped the nice ones up and brought them home. What luck! I hope it is an auspicious sign.



    I hope to get my spars and possibly foils done before I leave for Idaho. Building will be slow and spotty until mid to late August. I've set a target for launch this next Northern Hemisphere spring. I reckon I'll actually be done before then, but we'll see how she goes!

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    Fine... show me up... pics of sawdust can be interesting if not exciting... who knew?

    Good to hear you are under way with a decent time line in mind.

    Nice find re the rods for the spars.

    I've had some success buying bar clamps on eBay for a lot less than what the Big Box Stores want for them. I bought a set of eight 18" bar clamps for $4.75 apiece (including shipping). I cannot tell the difference - other than HD's are orange and the ones I bought are black - in quality.




    The eBay store I use has 6", 12", 18" and 24" bar clamps at similar prices.

    Here's an example:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/8-NEW-6-Inch-BAR...item53dbcb75dc

    You can buy at the "Buy Now" price if you are a bit impatient. Or you can find the item you want and bid the minimum bid just before closing. Realistically - there are no bidding "wars" on these items, so a minimum bid near closing gets you a pretty decent price.

    I have no interest in this guy's business other than as a satisfied customer.

    Bob

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    Bob, I avoid HD and Lowes like the plague Shop locally owned wherever I can. I got the 12" bar clamps I wanted at a decent price, and best thing, they're already in my shop, hehehe.

    I figure it is better to be generous with a deadline and be pleased when you meet it or are even ahead, than to cramp your timeline and be disappointed when you don't meet it. The fir round sticks are a pleasant bonus...pretty cheep at a buck twenty nine a foot. Nice sticks of fir too.

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    Do you do your shopping with your bow and arrow in hand. Makes getting decent prices a bit easier.

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    "Ok pardner, wholesale prices or your life." At which point, Fred, the timber supply man, hits me with a 2x4 and tells me to come back when I'm in my right mind, LOL.

    I'm glad I'm doing the spars first, in my little shop space I can see that space would become pretty cramped trying to work on long spar bits with a boat hull in the round setting in the way.



    Quote Originally Posted by Boatmik View Post
    Do you do your shopping with your bow and arrow in hand. Makes getting decent prices a bit easier.

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    Actually Rick, Can you write a bit about your wooden Bow and Arrows. I went past a bunch of people Arching in the north part of the city centre a couple of weeks ago. I noticed that the people standing furthest from the targets had very fancy carbon fibre bows with pulleys, counterbalances and vernier scales.

    However a few of the hotshots had wooden bows as well. I hung around to see if they would use them for a bit and wanted to take photos but my camera battery was flat.

    MIK

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    Compound arrow launching devices with illuminated laser rangefinder sights and big ol' bicycle wheel doohickies are not Bows. Period. They are also butt-ugly.soulless contraptions, mass produced by technicians, rather than being coaxed to life, seduced by the whisper of the spokeshave and scraper into the bending by the masterful hand of a bowyer. I shoot carbon arra's too raw unprocessed WILD carbon. Wood and cane shafting only in my quiver.

    Just for entertainment purposes, here is the image from my avatar. The bow is of Garry oak, American flatbow style. 70# @ 29 1/2" draw. This bow really spits 'em out.



    Quote Originally Posted by Boatmik View Post
    Actually Rick, Can you write a bit about your wooden Bow and Arrows. I went past a bunch of people Arching in the north part of the city centre a couple of weeks ago. I noticed that the people standing furthest from the targets had very fancy carbon fibre bows with pulleys, counterbalances and vernier scales.

    However a few of the hotshots had wooden bows as well. I hung around to see if they would use them for a bit and wanted to take photos but my camera battery was flat.

    MIK

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    Ok, last of the bows for this thread. I'll post more if you are interested, over on one of the more appropriate forums.

    This is another American flatbow, made from hickory, rattlesnake backing, water buffalo nock overlays. 65# @ 29 1/2" draw IIRC.


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    Howdy Rick,

    Put a link here to where you discuss more. Really interesting stuff.

    Is the rattlesnake for decoration or is it a structural element?

    The bend of the bow looks very slight, must be very stiff. (I'm fishing for info - wood tech is the bees knees!)

    MIK

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    I have my 'pox and tape and cloth on order, should be here first of next week so I can do the glue up on the mast, which now has all parts cut and fitted.

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    Rick,

    Welcome to the growing crew of West Coast Goat Builders. Keep those fotos coming. Any chance of you making it to Timothy Lake - assuming we pull it together for Mik to make the trip?

    Oh... and, yes, please, more about bows. Maybe start another thread?

    Prosit,
    David G
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    David, I'd like to come up for the Timothy Lake event, but unfortunately, all my vacation time for this year is spoken for.

    I'll start another thread this evening on bows in another forum more suited to that topic.

    MIK, the snake skin is decorative. Snake skins are very very thin, and add nothing to the structure. The bow is braced a full 6 1/2" (distance between string and belly side of grip), though the perspective in that angle makes it appear less. Unbraced the bow actually has a bit of reflex, simply put that means it bends "backwards" when it is unstrung.

    Quote Originally Posted by arbordg View Post
    Rick,

    Welcome to the growing crew of West Coast Goat Builders. Keep those fotos coming. Any chance of you making it to Timothy Lake - assuming we pull it together for Mik to make the trip?

    Oh... and, yes, please, more about bows. Maybe start another thread?

    Prosit,

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    Ah ... Cool Rick! I thought snakeskin was pretty thin. But it is very cool!

    Beautiful thing.

    MIK

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    Here is a link to a thread on the topic of bows.

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...871#post998871

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    I'm back from Idaho, will be resuming the build shortly and posting updates.

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