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28th November 2008, 08:46 AM #91
Archie ,,, how much crown ... I may as well try to get it right!!!
Michael
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28th November 2008, 10:39 AM #92SENIOR MEMBER
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Well, if the knee is 19mm thick and sitting with its bottom 18mm below the top edge you'll be able to get a 1mm crown...a 20mm thick knee set the same would give you 2mm crown...
I don't have the skill and patience to shape a smooth crown so I just rounded off around the edges and the center is still pretty close to flat.
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28th November 2008, 12:54 PM #93
OK ... that is OK MAM ... just wanted to make sure that it wasn't 6mm needed (I can't see that it would be!)
Michael
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28th November 2008, 11:11 PM #94SENIOR MEMBER
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If someone wanted a lot of crown they wouldn't want to set a 19mm knee up there 5 or 6mm proud of the top edge of the sides. Once shaped there would only be about 12mm left bonded to the sides. Since the gunwales have pretty much leveled out as they come together at the bow a very small crown is all that's needed IMHO.
When I put mine in I was shooting for flush but the imperfect angle on top of the stem piece set mine up about a millimeter. I was OK with it since it forced me to try to work a little crown into the knee.
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29th November 2008, 12:04 AM #95
yes ... thanks for that.
Michael
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19th December 2008, 08:03 AM #96Member
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The No Update Update
18 December 2008
The No Update Update
Life is conspiring against boat building right now.
The holidays have caused a brief, and expected, slowdown...
Thanksgiving was a let down - my dad and I headed to the garage to do the dry fit of hull and frames. It didn't take long to crush the excitement I felt walking out the garage, picturing the GIS assembled in front of me. We quickly found that I had assembled the hullsides as exact matches, not mirror images (which MIK goes out of the way to warn about in the directions). Embarrassing more than anything. So a simple task overlooked. But, minor delays. So we worked on the hollow mast, marking out the measurements. I'll cover that in another post, so as to have a complete post on the mast building process.
The major delay...
Last week I prepared my next shopping list for the lumber yard... including the bits to re-do the hullside (it gives me a pain in my stomach every time I think of this). I was looking forward to getting after it again. Friday night as I sat on the couch with my wife, silently counting down the hours to my trip to the lumberyard, there was a knock on the door.
Our landlord was outside. The news was not good. Seems he got upside down in real estate market. Sold his current residence, and was moving in our house. We have until the 15th of January to move out, and in the meantime, he and his family are living in the 1 bedroom apartment above our garage. Instead of going to Channel Lumber, I spent the weekend (minus a football game on Sunday) looking for housing. Did I mention my wife is 17 weeks pregnant?
The ultrasound is the 12 week ultrasound. Due date is 26 May 2009. Scary and exciting.
I'll be back at it soon with updates to follow. Happy holidays to all
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19th December 2008, 04:10 PM #97SENIOR MEMBER
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I've done that mistake before, with the side planks!
Wow, you have some serious lemons being thrown at you. This is another reason you've chosen a great boat to build, it is a big project but after you've made lemonade with all these lemons you can get back into it and see progress quickly again.
All the best, can congrats on the baby. We will be getting a call from China someday to come get a sister for Oliver. Could be 3 months, could be a year. Should be able to sneak a Goat in there
Cheers,
Clint
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20th December 2008, 12:44 PM #98
Jamie,
Sorry to hear how life is treating you right now. I was feeling sorry for myself about not having a place to build my GS, but I don't think I'd trade places with you.
Congratulations to you and your wife on the baby!
Good luck to you, too!
Bob
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22nd December 2008, 07:21 AM #99
Ah Jamie, Glad the boat is still at the flat stage - will increase your options with the move etc.
Congratulations to you and your wife too ... a baby! I will bet it will be a little bit easier to name than the boat!
Here are some names I would not recommend for the child
Intrepid
Resolute
American Eagle
USS Constitution
Morning Cloud.
And many human names don't suit boats
Trevor
Errol
Sharon
But it is such a matter of taste ... that maybe I am wrong!
Keep plugging away .. and best wishes to you and your family!
Michael
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17th April 2009, 06:32 AM #100Member
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I've been motivated by the recent flurry of Goat building taking place around here (MAM, Bob W, Juan Carlos, Bjarne, SOLing)! Enough excuses, I am finally making progress again! Life will change dramatically next month with the arrival of our first baby, so this might be short lived. I am trying to gather all of the remaining necessary materials I need so that I can work in short burst as time allows.
Good to be back at it (for now)!
15 April 2009
Back in Action
I am slowly returning to work on the GIS. Currently tackling small tasks that can be completed with out re-arranging the garage every time I have a few hours to work.
I started with the centerboard. I cut the blanks to 24 mm. Then I set about gluing them up.
Dry fit, lining up the blanks:
From Goat Island Skiff Centerboard
Turned up, ready for epoxy (except this picture is missing the plastic between the sawhorse and blank):
From Goat Island Skiff Centerboard
Glued up:
From Goat Island Skiff Centerboard
(notice the shop supervisor, Hank)...
From Goat Island Skiff Centerboard
If I had to do it again, I would clamp it side to side, like I did, and add a vertical clamp set-up, like this and this. I was so focused on the horizontal direction, I didn't put a lot of thought into the vertical direction. Lucky for me, it turned out straight and nearly level.
I don't have a thickness planer, which is why I left the blanks at 24 mm. I figured I would hand plane the flat section of the centerboard to the 22 mm required. The templates provided in the plans make it fairly straight forward to shape the foil. The biggest limitation is my still developing plane techniques. I will be painting the centerboard foil to ensure that I have the smoothest possible finish.
I am close to hitting the final shape. I am finding the trailing edge is taking longer, but I am close. I will post pictures prior to doing any epoxy/fiberglass work.
I have also cut the wide staves for the hollow mast to size using the router. I'll cover the mast work in another post once I get further along.
Building will continue to be slow - launch of the baby is due in 6 weeks!
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17th April 2009, 06:45 AM #101Senior Member
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Keep up the good work. And keep Hank occupied elsewhere during the epoxy glueup. More than once, I've had dogs end up with a scruffy sort of Epoxy Mohawk. It ain't pretty
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17th April 2009, 07:33 AM #102
Jamie,
Glad to see you're back at it! And just is time, too, for me to pick up and extra tip. I'll be gluing up my rudder blank this weekend and I hadn't really thought about clamping in both directions. But I have enough clamps and lumber to do that. Thanks. I should begin shaping the rudder by Sunday afternoon.
I look forward to your posts and continued progress!
Congratulations on the soon to be new expansion of your family!
Bob
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18th April 2009, 12:57 AM #103SENIOR MEMBER
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Kids and boats
I built a cradle boat for my baby when we had him. I was at the lumber store for the project when my wife started Labor! The guys at the yard were listening intently as I gave directions to my wife and told her to calm down. She was feeling OK. I joked with her asking if I could stop at the Hardware store on the way back...she didn't laugh. The yard guys thought it was hilarious.
Here is the plus about babies...they sleep a lot...so if you don't need much, you could be working on the boat!
Clint
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18th April 2009, 04:56 AM #104Member
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Gents,
Thanks for the nice comments. Good story Clint! I am trying to get all the material together so that any downtime after the baby arrives can be spent productively!
Cheers,
Jamie
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18th April 2009, 11:32 AM #105
Nice to see this all happening! Very nice
MIK
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