Thread: Lug Rig Heaven

Okay, maybe I won't wait until next spring...

Would the downhaul and vang lead to the same side of the centercase, or one to each side?

Any modification needed to the center seat bulkhead for better access to the lines lead to the back of the centercase?

Is the recommended/suggested added depth to the boom and yard for the entire length of each spar (not clear what "...added at each point..." means)?

Could the line used to "stop the boom moving away from the mast" be called a "gooseneck lashing?" Just a thought - I'm sure there is a more nautical proper name...

Thanks again.

Bob

This has been a great discussion and thanks to everyone.
About Bob's question:"Could the line used to "stop the boom moving away from the mast" be called a "gooseneck lashing?" Just a thought - I'm sure there is a more nautical proper name..."
On my boat, the tension of the downhaul is enough to prevent the boom when on the lee side from moving out more than at most a couple of centimetres from the mast without any lashing or loops at all. I doubt if it matters at all if the boom moves away a bit from the mast when the tension might be low, as in light weather.

Concerning Mik's comments about expensive jewels and complicated rigs to tweak the rig for racing, I rigged the boat as Tom Dunderdale described in the plans. It was only now from Brian that I found that other English sailors use this system. If I had known then where I could get away with cheaper blocks than Ronstan ball bearing I would have used them. So far, I only "race" in Raid Finland, but like to be have the lines to be able to easily flatten the sail to avoid early reefing, prevent wild gybes, and have something interesting to do while sailing along. But I'm sure experience is more important than all the rigging to make the boat go faster.

Peter

Howdy ... just added a thread specifically about the Goat Island Skiff lug and setting up.

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f169/o...8/#post1174814

It feels like this thread has gone full circle for me. Tomorrow, it's the Lymington River Scow Nationals again, the very event that started this thread. 41 lug rigged LR Scows are entered.

I have been leant LR365 again by it's very kind owner who has a busted shoulder and cannot race her effectively.

Hoping it will go well, taking it easy, try and stay out of trouble, might even start on starboard!

Wish me well, hope there's not too much falling!

How can I not at least try with over 40 lug rigs little boats out there racing together, in the western Solent.

Brian

Originally Posted by keyhavenpotter

Hoping it will go well, taking it easy, try and stay out of trouble, might even start on starboard!

Only 40 of them Brian you should be able to stun them with a leeward end start. Fortune favors the bold.

Good luck and have fun.

Headcam and post here!

MIK

Hi Guys, just back in after the racing. 14 knots building to a steady 19 knots. Very wet but happy. Somehow held it together and got 2 thirds and a first!!!!!!!! Won that last race by two seconds.

Great courses, very close racing. Spot on about the leeward end starts. The line was biased to the pin end, which leaves many, who simply start at the committee boat end all the time out the the way. Best start would been port tack, and leebow the tide, bit I promised I would start on starboard choose what. So started on starboard and flipped to port as soon as I could see it was clear.

It meant just the better racers were at the pin end so no issues of too many boats around to handle starboard shouts.

A magnificent day and so please I held together ok.

Only way to describe it - lug rig heaven!

There is one more race to tomorrow but very strong winds forecast that may be it, after completing three races.

Should be lots of pictures next week. My camera batteries went flat and dare not use new head cam in such strong winds yet. Too busy coping.

Brian

Some pictures from today and link to Picasa web album. See if you can spot me LR365 bright orange sail.









Picasa Web Albums - 11576796960220832... - New Folder

A great day's sailing.

Brian

That wouldn't be you up the front!

Looks like great fun!

MIK

Here's the video you requested!

Mainly two handed coverage but some of the singlehanders as well. Look out for my orange sail (no jib) LR365. Does make the Scows look slow though. Seemed exciting at the time.

By the third race the wind is 20 knots. Scows don't plane till 30 knots!

Watch out for LR393 going downwind, and you will see why I am an advocate for a kicker/vang for downwind sailiing.

JOHN CLARIDGE BOATS

and 258 photo's here

http://www.johnclaridgeboats.com/app...lbumid=9462154


Brian

I notice that the orange sail boat is one of the few starting nicely on time and pointing in the right direction!

Ha ... just noticed that was a sloop and the gun hadn't gone. That current is something we don't experience here that often! Not for starting lines anyhow.

Is it a super long start line or just the camera?

MIK

Originally Posted by Boatmik

Is it a super long start line or just the camera?

MIK

Bit of both. It was a nice long start line, and with it being for pin biased, it meant those starting at that end could be away and clear to tack onto the favoured port tack and lee bow the tide. That's one of the interesting features of Keyhaven. Taken from the camera person's position. Behind their back the tide is coming in strongly, about 3 knots from their left to right. However, looking in front of the camera person, ie the course start line the tide back eddy is flowing directly at them.

I thought I was starting reasonably near the pin, but look well away in the videos. The top guys are the ones at the pin. However they carried on too far on starboard before tacking onto port, which I did as soon as possible after the gun.

That long start line was interesting for the third race. They brought the windward mark much nearer to shorten the course because of the strengthening wind. That meant the distance was much nearer from mid point of the line than at either end, so even though I was again stuck head to wind for a while I was leading to the first mark, till I again go stuck head to wind tacking for the mark. Still second round the mark and then pipped the leader on the line.

Before the racing started I got stuck head to wind in her, and thought immediately that "wow" this boat is really balanced she should go well. And she did. I find it's part of the balanced nature of the balanced lug rig that makes her get stuck head to wind - especially as the wind and tide strengthen.

Brian

Thanks for that Brian. Always enjoy reading racing analysis. Particularly in the OZ winter.

MIK

Originally Posted by Boatmik

Particularly in the OZ winter.MIK

It's 18 deg C and blowing over 30 knots outside right now! How does our "summer" compare with your winter?

Brian