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    Hi All,

    It looks as if I've started to build a Goat Island skiff. Bought plans a few weeks ago - cheap enough so it wouldn't be a disaster if I decided not to build. Then I was busy calculating the cost of all the fancy wood involved (fancy by my radiata pine standards), fighting the urge to think of the cheapest near-enough substitute, when I found myself in possession of 5 western red cedar planks, bought from a large hardware chain of all places. They were calling them "decking boards" (140x40mmx3.6m), and I looked through them to find some less knotty and straight ones. Way cheap compared to buying the real thing! They say they were green, but I think they've been sitting on the rack for so long they're pretty low moisture now. So I've ripped them up last week (none of the sawdust had any dampness to it) and I glued up the rudder last night, and will glue up the centreboard blank tonight. It seems to be weighing around 400-420kg/m3 if my calculations are correct, so that's not too bad. Very tight growth rings on most of it, but some small knots here and there.

    I've always wanted to build a Jarcat 6, but I don't even have a yard to build it in at the moment, let alone a nice big shed. Though I can't complain because I'm just a stone's throw from the sea where I am. I've never owned a boat, or a sail boat, but I've been windsurfing for the last 5 years, so I figure I've got a few of the principles of sailing down, even if I don't know what they're called. And there are just too many nice days that go by that aren't windy enough for windsurfing, so I somehow happened upon the GIS on the net a while ago, and it all started to make sense. I'll finally be able to sail clear across to Moreton Island, which I think of doing every time I notice it sitting quietly on the horizon. All I have to do is kick a pesky car out of the garage, and I have my build space.


    Cheers,
    Peter

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    Sounds great. Nice find on the cedar too.
    You know you're making progress when there's sawdust in your coffee.

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    Super Peter!

    The first goat I sailed on in Oz, just under 20 years ago was in your neck of the woods! And was owned by a Peter too.

    This forum is the best place to record your build and will prove useful to lots of other people too.

    There is also a very active facebook group if you do facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/GoatIslandSkiff/

    Once you go 3d - the bottom is on - your GIS can be added to the world map.

    Best wishes

    MIK

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    If you are short of space it might make sense to prefabricate everything as a flat pack including all the components. Maybe.

    The counter argument is it is a huge buzz to get the hull 3d!

    MIK

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    Good luck with the build Peter, will you be posting progress shots of the build?
    I would be interested in seeing how you go about it. I've just completed the 1 yr fine furniture course at Sturt school for wood (Mittagong NSW) and have been entertaining the thought of building a small sailing yacht.

    Regards,
    Adrian

    P.S. Would you be kind enough to tell me what you have estimated the finished product will cost?

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    Yes Mik, I think I'll move on to the mast next, and I'll cut the ply out and keep it in two dimensions until I'm ready to put it all together. (It's not my car that I'm kicking out of the garage, so I've got to make a bit of an effort to keep the space available for the car for as long as possible!)

    Adrian, I'll probably post some pics here and there. There are a few good build threads on this forum - this one caught my eye - and a few good GIS build blogs out there too. My plan is to fight the urge to go out and buy more tools, and I'm hoping to keep costs to around $3000. Hopefully that's realistic.

    Cheers,
    Peter

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    Thanks Peter, $3000 does seem reasonable especially if it includes tools. thanks also for the link.

    Regards,
    Adrian

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    This is the first on the water pic I received of the goat, back in the days of ... photographs.

    Manly Boat Harbour, Moreton Bay.



    MIK

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    Much better with digital cameras these days! And the internet is a pretty handy thing to have around when you're building a boat, except I'm spending more time googling than I am on the tools. I started to get a handle on how the sail is rigged today - I had absolutely no clue before now. Quite an impressive contraption, the lug rig. I can remember seeing one years ago and thinking "well that looks extremely inefficient!" Little did I know.

    Made the stem today. Turned out quite well I think, considering all the ad-libbing I did holding the sucker down while trying to remove wood.

    My camera has decided not to cooperate with my computer, so no pics as yet.

    Cheers,
    Peter

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    Nice little boat. I would be interested in seeing how it sails, maybe even having a go on it one day when its built

    If you ever get the chance to build a Jarcat 6 I would say go for it. They are a fantastic little boat and great to sail also.

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    I better have a few sails on my own before I take any passengers out, Pearo - I don't know how to sail a boat yet!

    I got some wood for the mast today - hoop pine. I've looked for oregon but haven't been able to find any, and I was fearing what the cost would be if I did. So I was going to use hoop in place of oregon everywhere instead, except the large hoop pine outlet couldn't sell me any wood for spars today, they say they've only had radiata in that size since 6 months ago. So if anyone knows where I can get my hands on some oregon in the Brisbane region, please let us know.

    Cheers,
    Peter

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    You know you're making progress when there's sawdust in your coffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poit View Post
    I better have a few sails on my own before I take any passengers out, Pearo - I don't know how to sail a boat yet!

    I got some wood for the mast today - hoop pine. I've looked for oregon but haven't been able to find any, and I was fearing what the cost would be if I did. So I was going to use hoop in place of oregon everywhere instead, except the large hoop pine outlet couldn't sell me any wood for spars today, they say they've only had radiata in that size since 6 months ago. So if anyone knows where I can get my hands on some oregon in the Brisbane region, please let us know.

    Cheers,
    Peter
    I'll ask around. Might be able to find a second hand timber mast. What size is it?

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    Thanks Sumbloak, I'll give them a try.

    And thanks Pearo, but I'm half way through making the mast. I'm sold on this box mast idea - lighter, and cheaper materials - and I've done all the difficult cutting today so hopefully it'll glue up okay.

    I've remembered one other place to try for hoop pine for boom and yard, but I'm still thinking of using oregon for gunwales and transom, so I'll give Carbatec a try.

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    Spotted some oregon at Sandgate Timber Mill today. The other great place for oregon and cedar is VSH timbers at Virginia.

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