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    Default Murray River Photos from flight 221 (er actually 756) - a bit scary

    Howdy,

    Caught a plane back from Brisbane after visiting biting-midge and Jo and having the boat BBQ at Mooloolaba.

    The plane passed over the Murray River very approximately around the juncture of NSW, Victoria and South Australia.

    It all looks pretty disastrous and at times I wasn't sure I was travelling over Planet Earth.

    The lower part of the Murray above the wiers is so saline that you can catch ocean fish in it now.





    The whole set is here
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    Amazing photos, but yes it does look scary. Should send them to the environment minister. Or the water minister. Or the news paper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boatmik View Post
    Howdy,
    The plane passed over the Murray River very approximately around the juncture of NSW, Victoria and South Australia.
    MIK
    Looks like Renmark at lower left of the first, Paringa at lower right.
    The second one is from a little further downstream with Renmark/Paringa upper centre.
    Astonishing photos - salty flats which would normally be green swampy areas.
    Tea Lady's right - send 'em to the 'Tiser & Karleen.

    cheers
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    Is it all under water again now with recent rain, or did it manage to miss out?
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    Horrendous pictures of the Murray, but more importantly,

    does flight 222 to Toowoomba actually exist?
    Ray

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    Good joke Tea Lady..... to anyone who lives East of South Australia!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tea lady View Post
    Is it all under water again now with recent rain, or did it manage to miss out?
    No - it will be many months until the water from the rains in Qld get down that far. Also flooding in one area might mean that the water "disappears" into the ground. Then on the way down there are lots of dams and weirs that need filling - not to mention a lot of the backwaters of the river itself.

    Even before the drought there had been no outflows at the Murray mouth (where it enters the sea) for a few years.

    We are all too greedy.

    Michael (trying to shower less)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zathras View Post
    Horrendous pictures of the Murray, but more importantly,

    does flight 222 to Toowoomba actually exist?
    OK OK,

    I used a made up number so I wouldn't have to check my itinerary.

    The actual flght was DJ756 that left Brisbane at 11.25 and arrived Adelaide ten minutes before 2.35 on 29 January.

    Haven't you heard of poetic licence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boatmik View Post
    arrived Adelaide ten minutes before 2.35 on 29 January.
    So the big hand was on seven but you got there when it was on five?

    Or did you mean to say:ten minutes before 2.35 on two days after 27 of the month before February.

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    Midge - I think you have waaaaaaay too much spare time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boatmik View Post
    OK OK,

    I used a made up number so I wouldn't have to check my itinerary.

    The actual flght was DJ756 that left Brisbane at 11.25 and arrived Adelaide ten minutes before 2.35 on 29 January.

    Haven't you heard of poetic licence?

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    Did you apply that to the photo as well?

    (BTW great shots!)

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    Howdy BobL,

    When I took the original shots there was a lot of internal reflection from the two layers of glass - so I had to alter the brightness and contrast.

    There is a bit of that fading out still in the top left corner of one of the pics - but got rid of most of it.

    If anything the green bits are greener than they were when I used my eyes.

    So only a little poetic licence.

    MIK

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    Unhappy Murray Darling catchment

    Hi Guys.
    Mike
    Spent 15 years teaching about the MDB and the problems of managing our most valuable catchment. Seeing your pictures is so sad. I have had 100's of boys each year find solutions to the problem of over use of wawter and yet we cant solve it on a political scale. Part of the problem is that it is a low gradient river with very slow flow rates and high evaporation as it passes through semiarid country. So it gets heavily polluted but more importantly over used. And as a Queenslander I am ashamed to say that we are one of the main contributing causes of it. Cubby Station takes a lot of volume out from surface flow that would normally end up as runoff in the river making its way downstream. Went to a debate with the owners many years ago and they simply refuse to recognise that the water should be allowed to flow downstream.

    So what is the answer. It is an interjurisdictional catchment with a multitude of managing agents. (States, councils, shires, national parks, and land holders to name a few) So we need to have a central authority at the federal level who has total control of water distribution and management of the system with effective teeth to make binding decisions. But of course each state will scream about state rights and loss of potential revenue and jobs for their own. In the meantime we are destroying this amazing system and the surrounding land with saltation, desertification and loss of ecosystem both in the river and surrounding landscape. The end result for Adelaide is water you can not drink or use. (Toxic algae comes to mind. It will kill you if you drink it and burn your skin) Plus we are destroying the nations food bowl. So if I was in South Australia or in the lower reaches of the catchment I would furious and demanding an effective response to sort this out.

    Sorry all but it has been frustrating to have spent so long investigating Environmental issues in particular this one and then to see these photos. What a tradegy and an inditement on our political leaders that they have let spectacular and so vital resourse get to this state..........sighing big time... Phil

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    Gee. Look where woodforum tenticals go. Someone who actually knew something. Don't take it personally PhilW. You obviously feel passionately about the issue. It is unfathomable to most of us (I think? ) the bloody mindedness on certain large agricultural companies.

    Hubby was looking at google earth the other day (as you do) at central Australian landscape. Amazing how more people don't get lost.

    This post doesn't make any sense does it. Oh well. Off to have a cup of tea.
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