Thread: Ocean Explorer - Nano Cruising boat from Perttu and Boatmik

This is going out quite far from original threat...
here is cabin made from sea containers :



Kesäkontti « Parallel Lines

These small camping cabins are remarkably similar to your rendition Perttu





Timbertradesmen creators of 'The E-den'

it would be nice if the patio was the same curved shape as the profile of the cabin, then it could fold up and close off the entrance, as people do here to improve security of their beach huts. The canvas supported on supports sliding out from the roof are neat. Yes, these features would work nicely on your design.

Brian

HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!! AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

I have a design for a teardrop trailer running around in my head. If I make plans, how do I stop anyone taking the idea and start building them for their own gain?

By not being too paranoid about sharing information and keep on developing improvements and helping people who have problems building.

People who steal other designs are short termers and don't put any work into support or promotion or development. If you give support and promotion then they can't compete with you.

Sharing information gives a loyal base of friends/customers who will help protect your design too.

Have a look at this thread
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f35/ja...amarans-64457/
Where someone has copied the jarcat and done a crappy job - they disappeared without a trace years ago. Also their boat looked like a jarcat but was about three times the weight because they didn't understand boat structures at all.

That's the other thing. If you design is really good it will be successful - but if it is worse or just similar to other offerings then won't survive anyhow.

So it is a good thing to do and if you are serious about it then it will be a success because you will work at it - something a fly-by-nighter cannot do.

Best wishes
Michael Storer

Hi MIK thanks for advise, it's helped alot. This forum is very good, and the quality of the builds I have looked at are of a VERY HIGH standard. I hope I can eventually contribute with a build myself one day.

Martin.

Originally Posted by Perttu

Cabin like that needs some knowledge for right construction. Climat like in Uk- there will be great temperature differences and moisture issues while warming the cabin. So the basic log houses consturction where moisture can travel thru walls would be good, but that´s not what you are after.

Would need lots of time and knowhow I think? or it will be in mildew quicky

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Perttu

A couple of years ago I asked a Uk architect who only designs Green homes,
Forever Green Ecological Architects
if there was a book I could read to learn and understand more about ecological designs and their construction. He recommended a little 120 page book called "Out of the Woods, Ecological Designs for Timber-Frame Housing by Pat Borer and Cindy Harris"
The book was perfect for me and I can recommend it to anyone wanting to know more about eco self build. The design, construction methods for self build, weatherproofing everything. it only cost £13.50 from the Centre for Alternative Technology, a place I went to 35 years ago as a young idealist.

Problem is they no longer list it, but Amazon does with second hand copies now £30 and new ones £145! It's a shame because it's a nice well written book.

Amazon.co.uk: Used and New: Out of the Woods: Ecological Designs for Timber Frame Self Build (New Futures)

The designs are based on post and beam construction and the work of Walter Segal who refined the building process to make it accessible to all.

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Brian

Originally Posted by MARTY_PHILL

Hi MIK thanks for advise, it's helped alot. This forum is very good, and the quality of the builds I have looked at are of a VERY HIGH standard. I hope I can eventually contribute with a build myself one day.

Martin.

Even without the build ... you just contributed!

Thanks hugely for that!

Michael

Originally Posted by keyhavenpotter

Problem is they no longer list it, but Amazon does with second hand copies now £30 and new ones £145! It's a shame because it's a nice well written book.

Amazon.co.uk: Used and New: Out of the Woods: Ecological Designs for Timber Frame Self Build (New Futures)

The designs are based on post and beam construction and the work of Walter Segal who refined the building process to make it accessible to all.

home

Brian

Thankyou you old idealist!

Sounds like a great resource - as you know it is a topic I am interested in too. I have a book called Winning on the Wind by George Moffat about gliding. It is one of those books that shows you the type of thinking required to become good in any field - like my favourite sail racing author Eric Twiname - whose stuff is just brilliant.

The Moffat book I bought out of a remainder tray when I was at uni the first time - reduced to $2.50 - the price tag is still on it. Copies now are a minimum of $80 - for a little paperback!

MIK

Marshall Katz send me couble photos of his build. His Ocean Explorer is 3d now! - Nice work.

It is as cute as buttons!

MIK

Ocean Explorer - two different looks

I have been drawing PDGoose version of Ocean Explorer. ( OozeGooze )
While doing time with it I could not resit not to look how OE would look with similar look.
here is the original :

Ocean Explorer´s original idea was to give lot of window area to small cabin, so it would not feel too
claustrofobik.

Here is similar "oozegooze" look - It looks more agressive




and small screw out clear deck plates as windows with external moulding.





Just tuned the look with windows and made the curve between cabin top and gunnwale bit longer.
Perttu

Howdy Perttu,

I am always amazed how little tweaking of a couple of the hull lines can result in something that looks 3 times cuter.

That's something I really work on in my designs. Nice to see you have such a nice result here too.

Has a hypnotic sort of "rightness" about the appearance. Not too cute, not too plain.

MIK

Love the new OE look. Portholes look good and two tone scheme is good. I think light blue and white will look nice.I will buy plans for my b'day.TOTALY LOVE THIS DESIGN.

Hi Everyone....

I have to admit, I have bought the plans; they are safly stored away though, I will construct this boat in a couple of years time once I have moved to New Zealand. I plan to sail her around the Auckland area and doing overnight camping trips to the numerous islands in the area....

But for now, I have a question regarding the hatch. I understand the need to have it closed during sailing, and with only one person aboard this is fine, but with say 2 adults, it would be great if the hatch was central and could be left open for the passenger to sit in...

Now I see the mast would prevent it from sliding forward if it were central, but what about if it were in 2 parts, that split down the middle and allowed it to open to the sides... I hope that makes sense?

There would have to be a locking mechanisim to prevent one of from slamming shut in the event of a capsize....

It may also give easier access for 2 (small) adults to sleep in the cabin and easily be able to get in and out independently...

What are your thoughts on this?

Cheers.