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Thread: outrigger on a GIS vs Wa apa
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14th November 2013, 12:38 PM #1New Member
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outrigger on a GIS vs Wa apa
I am trying to decide between the GIS and a Wa' apa Wa'apa a three board sailing canoe I am hoping to sail Lake Superior and island hopping the Apostle Island. I like the 24' Wa' apas length for sailing bigger water. I like the GIS because of the center board and tiller combination on what would be a trimaran set up. Adding outriggers to increase stability, mostly to get my wife to be more comfortable on a "tippy" boat. I really like the versatility of the GIS would give me with and without outriggers. I guess I'm asking how doable are outriggers on a GIS.
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14th November 2013, 02:08 PM #2Senior Member
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They're doable, but IMO not really sensible. If you want an outrigger, build a Wa' apa.
ETA: Although out of his boats I'd be more inclined to go for the Va'a Motu.You know you're making progress when there's sawdust in your coffee.
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17th November 2013, 02:22 PM #3New Member
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The Goat Island Skiff shouldn't be tippy with 5' beam. I built a small sailboat some time back which was 9.25' x 4' at the waterline - I could walk around in it with no fear of tipping. I must admit though it was a bit like walking on a skateboat with castors, because it was so light. If you're going to put amas on a hull make it nice and narrow to start with. On a GIS they'd never get used.
BTW I like the Va'a Motu even if I'll never be able to pronounce it correctly. The whole concept of a safety ama is neat. I might put two on my canoe - amas should be seen and not heard so I like 'em high and dry but then I do buy insurance . . .
Haven't you guys gone metric yet . . . ?
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17th November 2013, 05:35 PM #4Senior Member
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Which guys? Murricans or Aussies? Australia went metric decades ago. I can work in either. The US is still on feet/inches/etc.
And Va'a Motu is easy to pronounce. It's just Va - a (two syllables) Mo tu. If you want to be all Polynesia in your pronunciation, the Mo sounds rather like "more", not like the English "toe", if you know what I mean. The "tu" just sounds like "two".You know you're making progress when there's sawdust in your coffee.
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26th November 2013, 07:43 AM #5
Terry, the GIS is a scant 1.018 m (3' 4-1/16") at the very widest point of its flat bottom, and narrows down quite a bit as you move away from there. The waterline is a couple/few inches above bottom, so you can safely say the beam is 3-1/2'. Add in the very light weight, 15' length and 16' mast (NOT counting the height of the lug rig above the mast) and you get a lively boat.
Dave
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