Thread: Another OZ MK2 PDRacer build in Sydney "Wood Duck"

That is the one. I use an incannel gouge myself. Purely because that is what was on the bench.

Actually I have some of the "official" hole punches and they are prone to clogging up and just really seem to be a pain (not always striking square and leaving segments connected). Not to mention that they are generally as dull as a butter knife.

I just whack away around the circle with the wood gouge and usually 3 segments makes the whole circle. I put a piece of scrap ply for backing.

Don't really know why people fuss with the full round ones.

Hi David,

Interesting. I might have something from my maternal grand-father's old woodworking tools - they are a whole bunch of cast steel items that are sitting in 10 litres of kerosene until the day that I haul them out and clean them up. That may happen sooner rather than later ;). I don't generally carve wood, other than balsa for my aircraft cowling plugs, and most woodworkers wouldn't really call taht carving ("hacking" and "chopping", maybe, but not carving - I use the Perma-Grit for that ;).

Another alternative, that I use on my aircraft wing ribs, might be a piece of suitable-diameter K&S brass tubing sharpened up with a fine jeweller's file, then the living daylights beaten out of it on four successive occasions on the sailcloth (sharpening in between holes). The large one will only have to survive for four holes, and K&S tubing is quite cheap and readily available from hardware stores and hobby shops here in Oz.

Thanks for the tip :).

Cheers,
Alex.

This is what the cutter looks like that I borrowed from my local sailmaker. They said " well you made the sail so far you might as well finish it"



http://www.profabrics.co.uk/shop/sho...nfo.php?id=C02

Takes a fair whack to get through all the layers.

Brian

and they're available in Oz too: e.g. Here

Originally Posted by keyhavenpotter

This is what the cutter looks like that I borrowed from my local sailmaker. They said " well you made the sail so far you might as well finish it"



http://www.profabrics.co.uk/shop/sho...nfo.php?id=C02

Takes a fair whack to get through all the layers.

Brian

Hi Brian,

Thanks to the suggestion and link :).

That tool looks disturbingly familiar...I used (a somewhat smaller) one of those when I worked at Univ. of Adelaide in the old Entomology Dept. up at the Waite (Institute as it was in those days - just). For banging holes in the tops of wasps' water bottles. That were easy - single thickness of low-density polyethylene (LDPE).

As I said in previous post, "...the living daylights beaten out of it...": I don't think that the thin-walled brass tubing will stand up to even part of one hole in the sail-corners and reef tacks/clews. I'm certainly not going to cough up AU$65+ for one was punch (and I will need two), which is the price that I have in the catalogue in front of me. I don't know anyone whom I can borrow such a thing from, either.

Will check Jeremy's link too, though.

Cheers,
Alex.

Originally Posted by jmk89

and they're available in Oz too: e.g. Here

Hi Jeremy,

Paul's Hardware, eh? I use to get fastenings, drill bits and files from them when I used to work in town. My six heavy-duty red-tipped spring-clamps (see during the air-tank glueing phase), $2 each :), came from them. I probably even acknowledged where I got 'em from ;). Haven't been there since I gave up work - didn't know that they had an online presence, thanks for that :).

They are quite cheap, and for what I need them for (not very much), they will probably be perfectly adequate. I'd get the Boss to pop down there on the way home, but that end of Castlereagh St is a bit far to leg it from where she works, then get back to the station. So mail-order it is.

On order, should get 'em on Monday :).

Thanks, to you, Brian and David :).

Cheers,
Alex.

There is no Castlereagh St store any more. Pauls only exist in their online presence.

Originally Posted by jmk89

There is no Castlereagh St store any more. Pauls only exist in their online presence.

What?! Oh no! That only leaves "Sunlite" in Pitt St for hardware stores in town, as far as I know now (Gowings Mitre10 having bitten the dust when Gowings did - the former hardware store owner is also online only now, as My Tool Store - again, someone whom I reference fairly regularly ;).

I guess this is the sign of things to come, what with Bunnings, Woollies and to a lesser extent Aldi, trying to destroy the Oz street-store hardware market (and they will, too). At least Aldi compete more honourably than the other two (don't get me started on that one ;).

Cheers,
Alex.

That was silly - I went downstairs to take a couple of snaps for putting up here, and decided that I could turn the boat over. Boat's OK, I'm not so much - dizzy and feeling sick. Back to bed in, well, not quite a flash, but as soon as I could.

Not quite as improved as I thought I was. Took the photos before turning the boat over, though, then took a few afterwards. Looks quite nice even with the rather tattered blue-tape along the gunwales (will have to replace the tape but was going to do that anyway). Next step there will be to sand, sand, sand - but not for a while! Very discouraging.

Originally Posted by AlexN

What?! Oh no! That only leaves "Sunlite" in Pitt St for hardware stores in town, as far as I know now (Gowings Mitre10 having bitten the dust when Gowings did - the former hardware store owner is also online only now, as My Tool Store - again, someone whom I reference fairly regularly .

I guess this is the sign of things to come, what with Bunnings, Woollies and to a lesser extent Aldi, trying to destroy the Oz street-store hardware market (and they will, too). At least Aldi compete more honourably than the other two (don't get me started on that one .

Cheers,
Alex.

There is another Sunlite in York St near Market St and another store (name forgotten) in Pitt St between Liverpool St and Goulburn St.

But they are getting thin on the ground

Originally Posted by AlexN

That was silly - I went downstairs to take a couple of snaps for putting up here, and decided that I could turn the boat over. Boat's OK, I'm not so much - dizzy and feeling sick. Back to bed in, well, not quite a flash, but as soon as I could.

Not quite as improved as I thought I was. Took the photos before turning the boat over, though, then took a few afterwards. Looks quite nice even with the rather tattered blue-tape along the gunwales (will have to replace the tape but was going to do that anyway). Next step there will be to sand, sand, sand - but not for a while! Very discouraging.

Please look after yourself, Alex.

Wood Duck needs to be finished without finishing you off!

Originally Posted by jmk89

There is another Sunlite in York St near Market St and another store (name forgotten) in Pitt St between Liverpool St and Goulburn St.

But they are getting thin on the ground

Yes - they have a fantastic stock of light-bulbs - almost every conceivable kind! I used to get our microscope lamp bulbs from there...

Thin indeed, though.

Originally Posted by jmk89

Please look after yourself, Alex.

Wood Duck needs to be finished without finishing you off!

Yes, I got the message pretty quick smart! So much for my trade-mark impatience ;),

Cheers,
Alex.

Been doing some more digging around with the Deardorff sailmaking videos. There are in fact 30 clips making up the entire series, so that's about an hour's worth.

Unfortunately, the YouTube version of the collection is a bit of a mess, with none of the videos being numbered, and appearing in random order.

BUT - a Google search on the string +"Karl Deardorff" brought up a link to a site that rejoices under the banner of 'eHow', and which has the full set in numbered order :). To make things easier for YouTube watchers on this thread, I have written down the 'eHow' list in order, and patched the YouTube videos into it. Note that there appears also to be a "ring-in" of a sort in both sets: the sequence is on making a jib, but there is, somewhat inexplicably, a clip on the measuring the gooseneck tack cutaway on a main. From a series on making a main, perhaps? Not that I've found yet, anyway.

I had originally started out by watching each YouTube video in turn to work out what the running order was, making educated guesses according to title and what I'd already seen as to sequence. I got it mostly right then ran into trouble fairly early on, which is when I went Googling, found 'eHow', and got the "playlist".

I've "collected the full set" of YouTube links and they appear in the 'eHow' order, below; plus the actual YouTube search results and the link to the 'eHow' numbered set. I have checked all links to see that they were working correctly at time of final posting.

1. Tools for Designing a Sail

2. Tools for Making a Sail

3. Measuring the Tack Cutback of the Sail (mainsail)

4. Drawing the Sail Design

5. Designing the Broadseaming of the Sail

6. The 2 Dimensional Layout of the Sail

7. Laying Out the String for the Perimeter of the Sail

8. Determining the Luff Curve of the Sail

9. Cutting the Sail

10. Cutting the Foot of the Sail

11. Marking the Panels of the Sail

12. How to Draw the Camber of a Sail

13. Marking the Foot Taper of a Sail

14. Taping the Foot of the Sail

15. Prepping the Sail Window

16. Sewing the Sail Window

17. Marking the Broadseaming of the Sail

18. Taping the Broadseams of the Sail

19. Drawing the Luff Curve on the Sail

20. Drawing the Leech Curve on the Sail

21. Drawing the Foot Round of the Sail

22. Doing a Hang Check on the Sail

23. Sewing the Seams of the Sail

24. Making a Head Patch on the Sail

25. Making the Clew & Tack Patches of the Sail

26. Sewing Down the Sail Patches

27. Sewing the Tablings on the Sail

28. Adding Rings [Eyelets] to the Sail

29. Installing the Snaps on the Sail

30. Adding the Telltales to the Sail

Here is the randomised YouTube list, which is the result for the search on "Karl Deardorff" - it's two pages-worth;

and here is the "eHow" numbered list, US site

Those in the UK could try searching on the eHow.co.uk site by following:

Home -> Sport & Fitness -> Recreation -> Sailing

and scrolling until you find "Making Sails". Here in Oz I kept getting martial arts videos coming up in the Deardorff links(!) on the UK site, but the US site worked fine.

I have even given this post a title, somewhat unusually, to make it easier to find.

Have fun :).