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    Default "Quasi leaning plank" for Beth?

    Hi MIK and All,

    I consider to use bench (quasi leaning plank) for my Beth "YuanFen". For more comfort for old f..t like me...
    Unfortunatelly I'm not fitet guy and position on knees and sitting on coaming are not good for my bones.
    As an attachement is a sketch of idea of bench which is removable and it's positioned on coaming over the deck and fastened by bolts from inside of cockpit.

    Looks well?
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    Or... overlaps on side decks only??? Protection for my lean a..
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    Some of the racing boats like the Finn put pads over the side decks. Other sailors buy shorts or wetsuit pants with pads in the bottom.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boatmik View Post
    Some of the racing boats like the Finn put pads over the side decks. Other sailors buy shorts or wetsuit pants with pads in the bottom.

    Yes, but you can see diference - I think.





    The classic coamings projecting (sticking out?) circa 1,5 cm above side decks and "eating" my bilious and bony bottom.

    If light air and puffs I need to kneel a midship and sit on edge of coamings... For longer day sailing it's not a pleasure and in result the bottom similar baboon's bottom is

    Than I need protection for knees and bottom or... bench.
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    You could reduce the coaming height by half without any more water coming in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boatmik View Post
    You could reduce the coaming height by half without any more water coming in?
    Probably yes.

    I don't want to demage her classic character... I like coaming (looks of it).

    My first boat had high coaming too and she had timber pads on side decks - you can see them there:




    They were removed after but I think they were useful.

    But... You wrote: reduce coaming height by half... OK I need to think over of it.

    Thank you.
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    Howdy Robert,

    I wouldn't recommend removing them, but even a 9mm high coaming keeps an amazing amount of water out of the cockpit.

    MIK

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    I did sail a Finn for several years, recently and also in the old days, with flat side decks and coamings
    I personally would go for a foam padding in stead of a wood construction. It's more confortable, lighter and probably less expensive.
    Any closed cell foam could do the job. In my area you could find inexpensive foam pads they use to kneel down on, for gardening ( 25x40cm pieces )
    Just make them thick enough ( put a few layers together ) to make them thicker than your coaming. Any polyester fabric could be used for a cover, fix them with a few ropes on small eyes. Not much damage on the boat and removable.

    best regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boatmik View Post
    OR cut up the cheaper foam camping mats.
    Yes MIK, many solutions possible are, but lower (on seat area) coaming and foam camping mat as a pads really good are - I think. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robhosailor View Post
    Yes MIK, many solutions possible are, but lower (on seat area) coaming and foam camping mat as a pads really good are - I think. Thank you.
    These are really necessery for me - I've sailed today again: Ouch my knees, Ouch my bottom!!!


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    Maybe it is like starting to ride a bicycle again. The first two or three days are quite painful, but after that the pain disappears. Unless you don't ride for a week.

    Then the pain starts again! I think some pads make sense.

    With the knees I do have several racing friends who have made kneepads from old wetsuits. Just slide them over the knees.

    I am sure the boat looks very pretty and is fun to sail while the pain makes you think of the designer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boatmik View Post
    Maybe it is like starting to ride a bicycle again. The first two or three days are quite painful, but after that the pain disappears. Unless you don't ride for a week.

    Then the pain starts again! I think some pads make sense.
    Exactly MIK - more depends from my real maladjustement to this kind of seat and required behaviour. But 1.5 cm high edge 7 mm thin is not comfortable seat I think.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boatmik View Post
    With the knees I do have several racing friends who have made kneepads from old wetsuits. Just slide them over the knees.
    Probably I can to buy somthing similar in nearest sport supermarket.

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    I am sure the boat looks very pretty and is fun to sail while the pain makes you think of the designer!
    Yes - the boat is really verry pretty and is fun to sail! I really like her, but I consider to use her for extended inland cruising (sailing and paddling) next summer - 3 weeks or more (and relative comfort needed):

    Wigry Lake (Wigry National Park), Czarna Hancza River, Augustowski Canal, Augustowskie Lakes, Biebrza River (Biebrza National Park), Narew River, Jezioro Zegrzynskie (Zalew Zegrzynski) Lake, Zeranski Canal, Vistula River from Warsaw to the my house.

    http://www.wigry.win.pl/index_en.htm (English ver)
    Czarna Ha?cza ? Wikipedia, wolna encyklopedia (English ver available)
    Suwalszczyzna - Suwalki Region (English ver)
    The Biebrza National Park (English ver)
    Narew ? Wikipedia, wolna encyklopedia (English ver available)
    Jezioro Zegrzy?skie ? Wikipedia, wolna encyklopedia (English ver available)

    I've sailed this route with my brother 35 years ago our first boat. He "climbed" up Wigry lake from Jezioro Zegzynskie by this method (with friend):

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKUKQCknsnU"]YouTube - Mistrzostwa Polski Pychówek[/ame]

    Movie: Biebrza River Days 2008 - championship of traditional river boats.
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    That is quite some schedule you have ready for BETH. Very exciting to work towards it! MIK

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    Rob's film reminds me of quanting on the Norfolk broads 12 years ago
    Cheers

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