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Thread: Questions on building a GIS
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12th February 2008, 09:15 PM #1
Questions on building a GIS
Hello, I just started building the GIS (made the planning, did the lofting and sawing of all parts) and reading the excellent instructions, I never the less came up with some questions. They will be the result of my lack of knowledge of boatbuilding enlish, I guess (in Dutch schools they didnot teach you useful things like that).
so here they are, by page of the instructions:
p. 24: what does "true transom shape" mean?
p. 25 & p 27: what are the side arms made of? ply? wood?
p 32: make and fit centre case gusste: the heading is there, but the instructions fail in my set
p 34: side cleats: the text says the bevel should be 8 mm, the drawing 11 mm??
p 36: fit front support for the middle seat: I donot understand this part, but maybe it will be clear once I get ther??
p 44: centrecase slot: what if I make it the same form as the centreboard: will this only complicate things or reduce drag too?
p 61: tapering mast base: at the end of the text:"...the base of the mast is now 56mm square" This should be 70mm square?
p 66 making the lug yard and boom: these hould be tapered and rounded: doest this meant they have to be round or just the corners rounded as in the pictures?
thanks foir the answers!!Last edited by SOLing; 12th February 2008 at 09:57 PM. Reason: problems sending
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12th February 2008, 09:50 PM #2
I am working on them: I posted them 7 times, but every time I just get a smaal part of the question on the site. working it out!
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12th February 2008, 09:53 PM #3
SOLing,
The side arms are made of wood. The size will probably be in the timber schedule.
I don't have a current set of plans, (mine are 15 years old!) so I'll let Mik answer I think. If he isn't here shortly I'll dig mine out and have a look.
Cheers,
P
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12th February 2008, 09:54 PM #4
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12th February 2008, 11:33 PM #5
Let me have a look Soling.
Did you buy the plans on paper or in a PDF delivered by email? From which agent?
If delivered by email what was the filename of the PDF?
Best wishes
Michael
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13th February 2008, 12:59 AM #6
If you received the plans by PDF file you should have received two files. One with drawings - the other with the text.
If on paper from Australia there will be some A3 drawing sheets with the balance in A4 which are the instructions.
The true transom shape is the shape of the outside face which comes from the drawing - the instructions tell you how to mark it out and add the allowance for the bevel for the angle that the sides and bottom of the boat meet the transom.
p. 25 & p 27: what are the side arms made of? ply? wood?
p 32: make and fit centre case gussets: the heading is there, but the instructions fail in my set
p 34: side cleats: the text says the bevel should be 8 mm, the drawing 11 mm??
p 36: fit front support for the middle seat: I donot understand this part, but maybe it will be clear once I get ther??
p 44: centrecase slot: what if I make it the same form as the centreboard: will this only complicate things or reduce drag too?
p 61: tapering mast base: at the end of the text:"...the base of the mast is now 56mm square" This should be 70mm square?
p 66 making the lug yard and boom: these hould be tapered and rounded: doest this meant they have to be round or just the corners rounded as in the pictures?
thanks foir the answers!!
Best wishes
Michael
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13th February 2008, 02:38 AM #7
hello mik,
I bought the plans as PDF, I think at Duckworks, but I have to look it up at my creditcard account. I will answer to,morrow when I get home
the names are:
GIs-drawings-tkjlkjlkj
GIS-instructions-kjhteb
kind regards and thanks for the answers!
ab
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13th February 2008, 02:49 AM #8
p 34: side cleats: the text says the bevel should be 8 mm, the drawing 11 mm?? I know I fixed this one up. - the correct drawing is attached - it lists all the bevels correctly.
thanks Mik, but I probably was not clear enough in my question: on page 34 there is a small drawing about the cleats for the seat, in the last sentence of the first paragraph is states, that all cleats have a bevel of 8mm, but in the drawing (the one with the clamp and timber scrap) it says 11 mm bevel, if I read it right??Last edited by SOLing; 13th February 2008 at 02:54 AM. Reason: better phrasing (I hope)
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13th February 2008, 03:33 PM #9
Howdy Soling - 11mm is the one.
Thanks for this too - I sent the latest version off to all my agents with the mast base correction anyhow - so they all have the current version.
Best wishes.
Michael
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13th February 2008, 10:21 PM #10
Thanks!
Hello Mik,
Thank you very much for the prompt answers!
maybe I am to precise, but that is a bit of professional deformation, that took 30 years to aquire...
I will keep you informed on the progress of building in another thread.
Thanks again.
SOLing
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24th February 2008, 11:27 PM #11
Centreboard: another question
Hello Boatmik,
being a bit of a number freak I came up with the following question:
in the instructions, page 72 is a drawing of the centreboard, that says that the width should be 341.
The total of the staves is 7* 45 + 35 + 20 = 370 (materials list)
Which one is correct?
Greetings, SOLingWer sich nicht bewegt, fuehlt die Fessel nicht /Rosa Luxemburg
(If you don't move, you don't feel the chains)
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6th April 2009, 09:41 PM #12
Varnish Problem
I am about to varnish / paint the GIS.
But I made a mistake, I guess: I want to varnish the inside of the hull. But unfortunately I forgot to remove the lines of the lofting, centerline etc on the inside before applying the epoxy...So now I have some nice lines running on the inside, covered by 3 layers of epoxy.
Is there anything that can save me from painting the inside?
Thanks.
SOLingWer sich nicht bewegt, fuehlt die Fessel nicht /Rosa Luxemburg
(If you don't move, you don't feel the chains)
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6th April 2009, 10:13 PM #13
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6th April 2009, 10:19 PM #14
Howdy Soling.
I do know of one large bolger boat (Moccasin) where they carefully preserved all the marks on the timber and then clear finished it ... and it all became a point of interest.
I would guess that most people would ever notice it. Or if you said that you like to reflect and remember the building process .. they would go "aaaah".
You could hide most of it on the bottom by varnishing, but doing the non skid sugar trick for patches.
If it really bugged you you could do the non skid areas in paint.
Michael
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6th April 2009, 10:21 PM #15SENIOR MEMBER
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Could you just paint a 1" strip over the lines, sort of make a feature of them!
Buy the grey non slip tape and apply where needed and over the lines?
Paint the floor with non slip paint, varnish the rest?
Brian
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