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19th January 2014, 09:46 PM #1Novice
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Quick Canoe Build
Hi all,
I have just purchased the plans for Mik's Goat Island Skiff and Quick Canoe. I have done a few wooden boat restorations but never built from scratch before. I rebuilt a Hartley TS16, a 50 year old 8ft pram and recently finished and currently sailing a Timber Pacer with my 4yr old daughter. My wife and I are expecting our 3rd child in July, this will make it 3 kids under 5. I've decided to buy plans and start a build or I may never get there. My first choice is the GIS but I don't think I would finish before bub is born so I have gone with Plan B and purchased the Quick Canoe plans and am expecting the ply, epoxy and timber to arrive this week. I return to work in 10 days which will give me 4-5 days to build before holidays finish. I live on an amazing lake open to the sea on the NSW far south coast with clear blue water and sandy beaches just over the back of our house where the lake runs into the sea. This area is too shallow for a centre board boat but ideal for canoes and kayaks. The plan is,
Day 1 - Draw up panels, cut out and do the butt joints on the sides and bottom
Day 2 - Epoxy panels and cut/trim hoop pin for timber work (gunwales, seat supports etc)
Day 3 - Tap panels together, flip and fillet, fit timber work and seats
Day 4 - Plane and sand bottom and sides, glass tape the chines and epoxy seal the whole exterior
As you all know things rarely go to plan, and I will be working around a 4yr old, 18 month old and pregnant wife. Oh well, I'll see what happens.
Im appropriately calling the QC "PlanB" and the GIS will be "Wild Goats XI". I plan on doing the foils and spars for the goat while waiting for our new bub and to just slowly chug along with the bigger build.
Cheers
Todd
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20th January 2014, 05:49 AM #2Senior Member
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Well, you are ambitious I will give you that. Welcome to the blog and keep us posted on your progress.
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25th January 2014, 07:59 AM #3Novice
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Timber arrives
Hi,
Ply, timber and epoxy arrived yesterday (Friday) and unpacked. It was cheaper to get everything from 1400 km away and pay for shipping then buy locally. The supplier told me they could ship 6m lengths of hoop pine so I ordered 12m x 19x19mm and 12m x19x12mm for the inwales and gunwales. This would have avoided the need to scarf. However the 19x19mm timber came in 3 x 4metre lengths. Oh well, last night I scarfed the gunwales and got ready to loft the panels when huge down pour came through with some water running under the rear wall and tracking right through the middle of the shed. Ply quickly packed back up and plans abandoned. Sunshine today so hopefully get time to loft and cut panels.
Cheers
Todd
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26th January 2014, 04:53 AM #4
Brilliant name for a GIS! Kinda jealous I never thought of it first.
I did a rough Eureka in 10days, though a few weeks were spent on it down the track making it better. A quick canoe in 5 sounds doable particularly with resto experience under your belt, though I'm looking forward to seeing WGXI come together.
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26th January 2014, 08:20 AM #5Novice
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Woodwork done
Yeah I love Wild Goats XI as a name. I've had my eye the GIS for 2 years. Kept going toward other designs but continued to come back to the GIS because of the simplicity of build, speed potential and all the rave reviews it has received.
Bottom and sides of the QC were lofted yesterday but sleeping kids and noise restrictions stopped from cutting them out. I instead did the interior timber work - tidied up gunwale scarfs and cut to length, cut inwales to length, cut seat framing and seat supports. Shaping he seat supports was fiddelly and took up some time.
Total time to date about 4.5hrs.
Todd
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26th January 2014, 10:45 AM #6Intermediate Member
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Cheering you on from the Sunshine Coast, QLD.
My Quick Canoe went past Wallaga Lake on the highway a few weeks ago on top of the car, en route from Jervis Bay to Eden. I wanted to stop at every body of water and have a paddle but there was no time.
I didn't use it in Eden, sadly, as it was too windy. Jervis Bay was wonderful, though. We paddled many times all round the rock shelves near Green Patch, and I resolved to cut windows in the canoe floor for next year! Glass bottom canoe!
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27th January 2014, 02:48 PM #7Novice
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Panels Joined
Yesterday I managed to cut out all the panels include seats and butt straps. I got 4 panels cut with the jigsaw before being called away. A few hours later, kids in bed and last sheet of ply marked and waiting to be cut, out comes the $20 handsaw. I have read about people using fine toothed pull saws to cut ply panels so I just started slowly and managed to cut out the final 2 panels with no splintering or trouble. I then planed and sanded all panels back to the pencil line. Time spent cutting 1.5 hours, time spent planing/sanding 2 hours. I had dreams of that pencil line.
This morning I did the 3 butt joins and am hoping epoxy sets by tonight so I can tape stems, tape bottom on, flip and fillet. Working with the epoxy on the butt joints was the most stressful bit to date (fingers crossed the boat isn't glued to the floor).
Todd
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27th January 2014, 03:38 PM #8Intermediate Member
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Looking good!
Those butt joints on my QC were my first ever use of epoxy. Yep, it was stressful alright and I used far too much. I didn't glue it to the floor, though. There was lots of cling wrap underneath. It got much easier after that.
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28th January 2014, 06:43 AM #9Novice
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Its a Canoe
Hi all, Canoath I will be following your lead with the finishing. Structure will be finished tonight but it will take me another week have a fully sealed and finished product.
Matt you never told me how bad the bottom and sides join when you beging taping. I could not get both sides flush with the bottom for the life of me. Lots of head scratching and some moments of terror and I decided to just keep going as per plans. By the time I was about 1.5 metres from the butt joins it all started fitting nicely and looking good. So boat is right way up taped with 1and 1/2 rolls masking tape waiting for fillets, gunwale, inwale and centre spreader. I'll do these tonight then slow down (back at work today) and fit decks, seat supports and seats, skeg and finish epoxy coating and varnish.
Todd
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28th January 2014, 09:44 AM #10Intermediate Member
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I think I commented on it somewhere in the general 'Quick Canoe... Add yours' thread (or similar). The side panels of mine wanted to pull *in* away from the tape, so I ended up holding it all in place mostly with panel pins prior to gluing. I used 6mm bottom and 4mm sides and don't know if that was a factor.
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28th January 2014, 07:24 PM #11Novice
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Taping bottom
Yeah same problem with me, side panels wanted to pull in about 15mmand the whole thing was looking terrible. I jammed a bit of 10mm dowel between the sides at the butt joint to hold some shape. Its amazing that once you get the tape on along the sides it all just sort pulls together and fits so well. I knew my cuts were right because I checked all measurements several times after lofting before I cut the panels out.
Today is Day 5 of my build and PlanB will be very close to completion (not completed as hoped but close). Just about to fit gunwales / inwales and apply epoxy fillets. I still have to fit seat supports and seats, skeg doubler and skeg, decks and epoxy seal and varnish outside. All these parts are cut and sanded just need fitting.
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28th January 2014, 11:28 PM #12Senior Member
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Great progress. Try to get some pics to show us.
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29th January 2014, 11:57 AM #13Novice
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29th January 2014, 07:19 PM #14Senior Member
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Well not doesn't that look grand. Your helper is really going to enjoy helping you use it.
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29th January 2014, 09:29 PM #15Senior Member
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Looking good.
With the bottom lining up and coming together it was the same with the Eureka. At one stage I thought there was no way it would pull together but in the end it worked out fine.
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