Thanks: 0
Needs Pictures: 0
Picture(s) thanks: 0
Results 91 to 105 of 161
-
22nd April 2012, 05:27 PM #91
Sorry, i should have been more clear. The decision would be made prior to leaving the house - it would be either a day of rowing or powering, not both. Yea, carrying everything around all the time would definitely suck.
This is what i really long to do. But is there any chance i could still put the transom on the original quick canoe - simply because i like the look of it - without compromising performance?
-
22nd April 2012 05:27 PM # ADSGoogle Adsense Advertisement
- Join Date
- Always
- Location
- Advertising world
- Posts
- Many
-
22nd April 2012, 06:41 PM #92
Canoes work because of a low drag for the low power available.
The question you have to ask is why don't you see serious paddling canoes with transom.
Part is convention, but some is also for the lowest possible drag for covering distance with very low amounts of power.
That's why you start to see transoms as the amount of power increases beyond normal human outputs
Michael
-
29th May 2012, 08:34 AM #93New Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2012
- Location
- Florida
- Posts
- 2
I’ve been looking and researching different small boat options for some time now. I tend to really investigate options thoroughly, which is both good and the problem. Even if I decided on one today it could be months (or longer) before I get out on the water.
So after reading different posts here, my solution is what I am calling “My Ultimate Quick Canoe 155 Combo.”
- Quick Canoe 155 Instant Download: $30
- Drop-in Outriggers Instant Download: $33
- Paddle Plans FREE Download
- Sail Plan/Outriggers FREE on Request
- Three sheets of ply for QC
- Two sheets ply for Outriggers (guesstimate?)
- Some lumber, rope (lines), poly tarp, epoxy, and paint etc...
This will provide a canoe to paddle, a stable fishing boat, and a fast sailboat in a pretty short time until I decide on a more time consuming build.
The primarily area of use would be the St. Johns River in Florida.
Anything I am missing or wrong about?
Thanks for any thoughts.
Jim
-
29th May 2012, 05:02 PM #94Banned
- Join Date
- Oct 2011
- Location
- Mount Colah
- Posts
- 140
Ive got another thread going describing my "big canoe". The plans for this boat come with mast and sail plans free. All in the plans were about $50.
This is a big stable canoe, some 900mm on beam and can take a small electric outboard. Ive seen ideas for putting a well in the aft end to mount the motor centrally.
-
30th May 2012, 09:48 AM #95
Howdy,
Wells may be too draggy for human powered craft - in terms of trying to deal them off so that they don't disturb the water flow, don't hold significant water and don't reduce the displacement of the canoe at the Back end so it goes out of trim.
The amount of power available when paddling is so tiny that everything has to work in your favour. I'm even concerned at the way fitting a transom to the Electric Quick Canoe will partially degrade the paddling performance. The more complication added to a basic canoe shape only can degrade the paddling function.
I'd suspect it of producing a lot of drag for the very low thrust outboards we are talking about.
The more central location of the motor is completely nice nice, but I suspect it compromises the simple/low power aspects too much.
Best wishes
Michael
-
30th May 2012, 02:45 PM #96
Jim, you don't need the drop in sailing rig info. There's a pack of free info included in the outrigger pack.. You just have to ask for it. Includes a bigger sail, rudder design spar designs and sailmaking instructions.
Michael
-
20th June 2012, 11:23 AM #97
I just ripped the center spreader out of my QC because I didn't use screws like Mik said....
The thin veneers on the cheap plywood I used didn't stay stuck to the layer underneath and POP! Wobbly Canoe.
Screw in that center spreader.
-
3rd August 2012, 08:31 AM #98
-
4th August 2012, 03:49 AM #99
Email me ... the email address is on the front of the plans. Or go to my website and the "contact me" is near the top left of every page.
MIK
-
26th September 2012, 09:05 PM #100Senior Member
- Join Date
- Jul 2011
- Location
- Finland
- Posts
- 131
Quick Canoe compared to Eureka
I have many times been wondering how QC is really comparing to Eureka when it comes to performance. I have not done any calculations, but it looks like Eureka would have less wetted surface, and thus less resistance at low speed with maybe (this is something I am definitely not sure of) a penalty in drag as the speed goes up (if this penalty at all exists, it might be at speeds higher than what you normally paddle at). Is there any drag penalty at all? I hope to hear from people that have been trying both. I am imaging this drag because I think the nose would go faster up for Eureka.
To me it looks like Eureka would do slightly better than QC with the same energy used for paddling in both.
-
27th September 2012, 09:10 PM #101
Peteloaf built a Eureka and he and I have canoed with each other an swapped out. The Eureka is easily driven, more mild mannered in chop, faster, and less liable to get blown around, but the differences are not earth shattering.
The QC is cheap, has lots of volume, and is Quick to build.
-
27th September 2012, 09:50 PM #102Senior Member
- Join Date
- Jul 2011
- Location
- Finland
- Posts
- 131
Thanks, it was exactly this kind of information I wanted. If you would compare the performance, how much more effort (a very roughly wild guess) do you need for QC when paddling to keep the same speed as with Eureka?
-
28th September 2012, 12:52 AM #103
Tough to quantify. The QC is easily driven when flat and calm, it's more effort than the Eureka once there are waves or wind, but the QC isn't exactly designed for performance. It does carry nice momentum though, so once it starts going, it tends to keep going minimizing effort. Peteloaf uses a double bladed paddle for his Eureka and with that little piece of equipment he just machs along.
-
6th October 2012, 12:36 PM #104
The plans for the QC have 2 different keel depths, I took the shallow one & I can tell you that it is HARD work to go cross wind with only one person in the boat.
Cliff.
If you find a post of mine that is missing a pic that you'd like to see, let me know & I'll see if I can find a copy.
-
7th October 2012, 04:57 AM #105Senior Member
- Join Date
- Jul 2011
- Location
- Finland
- Posts
- 131
Similar Threads
-
Quick Canoe - "Disposable" Canoeing - very simple ply canoe - building pics
By Boatmik in forum Michael Storer Wooden Boat PlansReplies: 205Last Post: 17th December 2012, 11:54 AM -
Alternative construction methods for Quick Canoe/Plywood boats
By Avery B. in forum Michael Storer Wooden Boat PlansReplies: 5Last Post: 25th August 2010, 12:30 PM -
What I did last week - quick build quick canoe?
By Boatmik in forum Michael Storer Wooden Boat PlansReplies: 4Last Post: 9th August 2010, 11:14 AM -
This beats the Quick Canoe.
By Cliff Rogers in forum Michael Storer Wooden Boat PlansReplies: 9Last Post: 11th July 2010, 12:32 PM -
Info for Quick Canoe (formally Disposable Canoe) builders - plan change.
By Boatmik in forum Michael Storer Wooden Boat PlansReplies: 8Last Post: 24th February 2010, 07:34 AM